Patrick Arnold's Monsterdrol Findings

[ironman2388]

Good evening, **** brainwashed victims. I am a regular poster at M-F-F and several private forums. I came across some information earlier tonight that I wanted to share here at **** central. A regular member at M-F-F sent several monsterdol pills to Partrick Arnold for analysis.

The results from PA:

"all i found in them was one peak of molecular weight 285 which came up in my library as piperine. piperine is bioperine

i can concentrate the stuff down and try again to see if i get any other peaks. doubt it though

of course this info is just gonna cause even more debate "

There you have it, folks. I would like to thank M-F-F forum, PA, and the member who sent the monsterdrol sample for making this discovery possible. Sorry for the repost. I posted in the supp section first figuring out how to navigate this layout.

[TAPShr3d]

So a quick google search revealed "bioperine" is a plant extra that supposedly increase nutrient uptake and has some thermogenic properties..

That's what I got skimming a few articles.

Is this stuff even anabolic in the sense of ph/aas?

How is PA even sure he was actually sent the real compound?

Not saying I don't find it interesting but I'm not one to believe something without some questions answered first.

BTW, I have no idea who NTMB is and I'm just a noob on here.

Thanks!

[SolidusSnake]

can you stop spamming the board now.. Thanks.

[ironman2388]

So a quick google search revealed "bioperine" is a plant extra that supposedly increase nutrient uptake and has some thermogenic properties..

That's what I got skimming a few articles.

Is this stuff even anabolic in the sense of ph/aas?

How is PA even sure he was actually sent the real compound?

Not saying I don't find it interesting but I'm not one to believe something without some questions answered first.

BTW, I have no idea who NTMB is and I'm just a noob on here.

Thanks!

No. It is not anabolic in the sense of aas/ds. It appears to be a complete scam. Obviously he can't be a 100% sure, but the source is a trusted member who actually WANTED to prove there was something worthwhile in the pills. There is also a thread at M-F-F called "what is ****". In there you'll find pictures, what PA posted, etc.

[ironman2388]

can you stop spamming the board now.. Thanks.

Wah, Wah, Wah. Looks like we found our first stage 5 **** nut clinger. This is the second time posting it. I explained why. Get over it.

[mw1]

Wah, Wah, Wah. Looks like we found our first stage 5 **** nut clinger. This is the second time posting it. I explained why. Get over it.

lol

[jbryand101b]

So a quick google search revealed "bioperine" is a plant extra that supposedly increase nutrient uptake and has some thermogenic properties..

That's what I got skimming a few articles.

Is this stuff even anabolic in the sense of ph/aas?

How is PA even sure he was actually sent the real compound?

Not saying I don't find it interesting but I'm not one to believe something without some questions answered first.

BTW, I have no idea who NTMB is and I'm just a noob on here.

Thanks!

be carefull, if you question if the caps were legit, you might end up permanently banned on ****.com.

but to answer your question, before I was banned over at ****.com, I asked in a thread what color the caps were from some mdxt users (on their own forum).

pa stated before pics of the caps sent were up, the caps were white, the pics of the caps in the bottle were white, and thanks to "hide my azz" I was able to look at the thread I asked the color of the caps, and they are indeed white.

if it helps, needto did not question the legitimacy of the caps sent to pa, or the pics of the caps in the bottle.

and yes, I am a former **** rep, and now, former friend of nate (needto)

[GQNemesis]

Whoaaaaaaaa

How much piperine per cap ? Jus so I don't overdose it

[schwellington]

okay well this still doesnt explain how people are gaining good on it? Im not a **** rep or a friend of nate, but logically it doesnt add up! And why didnt PA come in here and say it? I dont get it

dont focking flame me either cause im asking questions, i niether support nor oppose product in question- just doesnt make sense

[GQNemesis]

okay well this still doesnt explain how people are gaining good on it? Im not a **** rep or a friend of nate, but logically it doesnt add up! And why didnt PA come in here and say it? I dont get it

dont focking flame me either cause im asking questions, i niether support nor oppose product in question- just doesnt make sense

Are these non sponsored logs bro ?

Maybe it was a certain batch ?

Iono I'm in ure boat as well .. I haven't tried any of their product but very much interested in their EPI

Does PA only post on phf ?

[mmowry]

okay well this still doesnt explain how people are gaining good on it? Im not a **** rep or a friend of nate, but logically it doesnt add up! And why didnt PA come in here and say it? I dont get it
dont focking flame me either cause im asking questions, i niether support nor oppose product in question- just doesnt make sense

Its the internet, something only has to be posted 1 time,even in the most obscure location,for it to be everywhere in hrs.

[mw1]

[QUOTE=schwellington;2673087]okay well this still doesnt explain how people are gaining good on it? Im not a **** rep or a friend of nate, but logically it doesnt add up! And why didnt PA come in here and say it? I dont get it

dont focking flame me either cause im asking questions, i niether support nor oppose product in question- just doesnt make sense[/QUOTE

PA was asked by an individual at another forum to test his personal caps . He posted his results via PM to the member, and that person posted it in the thread~~~~there is no reason why he would come over here and post them

Hopefully someone will get him some Beastdrol soon to check for quality AND quantity

[SolidusSnake]

Wah, Wah, Wah. Looks like we found our first stage 5 **** nut clinger. This is the second time posting it. I explained why. Get over it.

Not really..
This just seems to be spam..

But, whatever floats your boat!

[kjkriston]

Not really..
This just seems to be spam..

But, whatever floats your boat!

Not sure how that is spam...company sold bunk ****...now its proven...glad I didnt buy it....U mAD?

[biggfly]

Not really..
This just seems to be spam..

But, whatever floats your boat!

This has been ongoing for weeks and now you are going to call spam...:tool. **** got called out for some questionable manufacturing issues, and now these are the repercussions a company has to go through if things like this happen.

[UnrealMachine]

Well, I can't argue with the test results, but if anyone has been reading the logs, there has to be something hormonal in there. Everybody running a log (and even those not running logs... everyone who's posted their feedback on MDXT that I have seen) has made gains that couldn't be accomplished naturally.

First, on AM, you have
merdock1983, who gained 16 pounds
pilip99, who gained 10 pounds in the first 2 weeks before bridging to Epi on the third
reecew, who gained 12.5 lbs (not bad for 5'4")
2k1s, who gained 15 pounds in the first 11 days alone
mazeman, who somehow gained no weight, but gained 20% on core lifts during week 3 alone and got his bottle refunded because he wasn't fully satisfied
On the **** forums I have seen at least 2 guys making gains but don't think I can link there.
On EF forums there's a log by Ozzie87 who has gained 11 pounds in the first 16 days

And then there's been some random posts I've stumbled upon where I have seen a couple people making good gains and one person saying his buddy is making good gains but I spend so much time on so many forums I can't remember where I saw it.


So, i don't know what's up with the testing results, I really don't. Maybe there is still an issue with the testing. Maybe a very small % of the bottles are indeed bunk in some way (and you should go get a full refund from Nate). But there are so many logs showing fantastic gains, and so many people getting results, that I think you would have to be delusional to believe that every bottle of MDXT contains nothing hormonal in it.

I still have my 2 bottles and they're going to be my next cycle... and honestly I'm not too worried about it.

So to people reading, you can hop on the bandwagon "MDXT is teh bunkz and every log are lies by evil undercover **** reps" *or* you could have a rational look at the user feedback that is available to us.

I look forward to seeing more user feedback posted.

[SolidusSnake]

Not sure how that is spam...company sold bunk ****...now its proven...glad I didnt buy it....U mAD?

Well I got 10$ bucks down that says caps or test or otherwise was tampered.. But you can call me a tool or whatever you'd like, does not phase me one bit.

You from bb.com? Keep that misc crap in the bb misc where it belongs.. Toolbag.

[ironman2388]

15lbs in 11 days? Come on, is that a joke? Logs aren't worth the charmin extra soft I just wiped my ass with. People exaggerate, get swept up in a wave of placebo, etc. You are also a rep for this product, creating bias, which makes your input worthless.

[jbryand101b]

people have been getting results. I do have to say, I have not seen a negative log (yet) where someone did not have aas type gains in weight/strength.

So on that note, time will tell.

[kjkriston]

Well I got 10$ bucks down that says caps or test or otherwise was tampered.. But you can call me a tool or whatever you'd like, does not phase me one bit.

You from bb.com? Keep that misc crap in the bb misc where it belongs.. Toolbag.

Really? Take you 75 posts and shove em in your ass.....Dont hold an account over there and never will....grab some proof to back you up while your at it...sorry your too dumb to research **** before you buy it...let me guess...those stats you got....you tubby aint you....my avi doesnt lie