macattack
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When is the best time to run the fina, i have heard the last 2 weeks of the cycle.
Yes of course, all AAS and PHs when used in sufficient (ie. useful) amounts will shut down your natural test productionOk help me please, the Fina is going to shut down natural test nearly completely correct? that leaves the fina which converts into trenoboline? its androgenic ratio is 2/3 thats 2 times more anabolic the test and 3 times more androgenic.
Sooooo we are saying is were not relying on TEST were relying soley on the Trenobline for the growth factor here, that being the steroid?
I am definetly lame here, thanks for the help and patients pogue
1)yes i feel the same way; you can make great gains off of test alone and it keeps your sex drive up among other thingsDamn heres something more i found
1. ALWAYS use a base of test.
2. Stack one other item on the test.
3. Best results for MOST people will be with another androgen like tren or d-ball.
4. Have arimdex on hand and use if needed while on to keep est related sides at bay.
5. No one can tell you what you will gain or what the sides will be, you need to find out for yourself.
6. Longer cycles tend to allow one to keep more muscle when you come off.
7. ALWAYS use clomid post cycle.
8. Modify your training post cycle to ensure you retain as much gains as possible.
9. If your diet and supp intake isn't optimized FORGET ALL OF IT!
test hurt you? uhhh NO...
go tell that to the TONS of people that run fina/test...
test does not give all water bloat dude; and it doesn't give you FAT gain; jesus christ quit giving out false info...
EVERY thread I have EVER read; I mean EVERY ONE of them that dealt with the question of fina being stacked said to run it with test... now your telling me that some bullshit you read in that no one else has ever seen is more true than real-world results given by TONS of bbers on various forums? i think not...
macattack; for more info and the BEST info on fina; check out gotfina.com... can't ask you to trust me anymore than PJ; but go check it out with people who have actually USED REAL test...
test DOES give muscle gain; and it depends on what kind of test you run to what kind of water bloat you get along with other sides; i'll prove it to you on my next cycle
PJ, did you know if you run an anti-estrogen while ON cycle it WILL hurt your gains? and that test does pack on muscle and its not all water weight? go read up man; i know you like to help but this is misinformation... go read the thread YJ posted about test response... think they packed on fat instead of muscle?
i'm PRETTY damn sure but test and fina DO NOT compete for the same receptors