Anyone else used Fina W/ 1-T and 4AD trans?

[macattack]

OK cool i'll do that then, 2 weeks geta moveon LOL

Just keep reading the 6-8 is best on this tren cycle?

I think i am just going to run out this cycle doing test and 4Ad right now then next cycle will be little more serious, this has been a good year so far i dont want to screw up and make a mistake along the way so i need more time studying and weighing.

Still even with 4 weeks i hope you have clomid Just in case, your dealing with some serious glandular **** here ya know
I hope it goes well for you Bro....

[Bean]

test hurt you? uhhh NO...

go tell that to the TONS of people that run fina/test...

test does not give all water bloat dude; and it doesn't give you FAT gain; jesus christ quit giving out false info...

EVERY thread I have EVER read; I mean EVERY ONE of them that dealt with the question of fina being stacked said to run it with test... now your telling me that some bull**** you read in that no one else has ever seen is more true than real-world results given by TONS of bbers on various forums? i think not...

macattack; for more info and the BEST info on fina; check out gotfina.com... can't ask you to trust me anymore than PJ; but go check it out with people who have actually USED REAL test...

test DOES give muscle gain; and it depends on what kind of test you run to what kind of water bloat you get along with other sides; i'll prove it to you on my next cycle

PJ, did you know if you run an anti-estrogen while ON cycle it WILL hurt your gains? and that test does pack on muscle and its not all water weight? go read up man; i know you like to help but this is misinformation... go read the thread YJ posted about test response... think they packed on fat instead of muscle?

i'm PRETTY damn sure but test and fina DO NOT compete for the same receptors

[pjorstad]

Originally posted by Bean
test hurt you? uhhh NO...

go tell that to the TONS of people that run fina/test...

test does not give all water bloat dude; and it doesn't give you FAT gain; jesus christ quit giving out false info...

EVERY thread I have EVER read; I mean EVERY ONE of them that dealt with the question of fina being stacked said to run it with test... now your telling me that some bull**** you read in that no one else has ever seen is more true than real-world results given by TONS of bbers on various forums? i think not...

macattack; for more info and the BEST info on fina; check out gotfina.com... can't ask you to trust me anymore than PJ; but go check it out with people who have actually USED REAL test...

test DOES give muscle gain; and it depends on what kind of test you run to what kind of water bloat you get along with other sides; i'll prove it to you on my next cycle

PJ, did you know if you run an anti-estrogen while ON cycle it WILL hurt your gains? and that test does pack on muscle and its not all water weight? go read up man; i know you like to help but this is misinformation... go read the thread YJ posted about test response... think they packed on fat instead of muscle?

i'm PRETTY damn sure but test and fina DO NOT compete for the same receptors

Ok the problem is a lot of all this is based on opinion. So with that said i don't give a crap what they say at gotfina because i think they are wrong and i wont change my mind for anything.





And for that the rest of your post is gone. If you continue to post complete BS, you won't be able to post at all. Takea hint and research before you post.

[macattack]

LOL you guys know alot more then i do on this least it sounds like it to me so i wont interfere, i cant choose who's right and who's wrong because i dont know enough YET, i am still researching all of this. Probablyhave 20 hours or more socked into it already. Its a good question when it makes for this kind of debate.

I gained at least 10 pounds on my last cycle of Test yeah alot was water 2 gallons of it a day body is bound to saturate a lot of it, also put some fat on but my strength to this day is way up even after being off it for 6weeks, now back on another but with 4AD and starting to bulge in the guy already after a week now.

Personal experience is what i look for also, i wont do this cycle like the last one, i want leaner gains so i am knocking down some things i used the last time, high fat for one, yes taking in fat just not as much i dont want FAT gain, less carbs also and more protein, and see how i develope this time, now some guys will argue me there, but i am going on what my last cycle was like so tweaking it just a bit.

I am 41 years old, when i was in my 20's 300 pound bench was nothing, i think i hit 385 back then but i havent done that sort of weight in years, Saturday i hit 300 again like it was 220 so things are looking up, things really slow down when you start getting up here in age, but i feel better today then i did then.....

And always try to agree to disagree, that way we remain friends

Peace out