"Safest" steroid to put on a little muscle/lose a little fat

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    "Safest" steroid to put on a little muscle/lose a little fat


    I am just wondering what the safest/best steroid is for someone that just wants to get a little jump start into muscle mass. Not looking to get huge. I don't want to have to maintain something like that. Just want put on 8-10 LBS of muscle and maybe lose a percentage of body fat off my body..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittguy578 View Post
    I am just wondering what the safest/best steroid is for someone that just wants to get a little jump start into muscle mass. Not looking to get huge. I don't want to have to maintain something like that. Just want put on 8-10 LBS of muscle and maybe lose a percentage of body fat off my body..
    there's nothing easy about putting on 8-10lbs of muscle while losing fat...typical halodrol run gives 6-8lbs of lean gains.

    in every cycle your results are based on your diet, and training (diet is listed first on purpose).

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    Epi clone (havoc, epistane, etc)
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    halodrol clone (turinabol LV, h-drol, helladrol, etc)

    note: based on your stats listed, you should probably work on gaining naturally before you start considering steroids.
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    ^^^ good advice, follow this. Not to be an ass, but everyone on here would love to put on 8-10 lbs of muscle while losing bodyfat at the same time. Physiologically impossible, when you gain, you gain some of both. You can keep fat gain to a minimum, but you simply cant eliminate fat gain or when gaining muscle too. If you could you would never hear the word "cut" or the phrase "currently cutting" etc etc. Everyone would just gain 8-10 of muscle, wash rinse repeat, and we all would be happy!!
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    Recomp my friend, should be able to lose 2 - 3% BF and put on a couple lbs. H-Drol + Furzza or PP Androhard would work well.

    As mentioned, diet and training need to be spot on.
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    PH/DS/ASS do not replace hard work, they just allow you to work harder.
    In other words, they make your body more efficient at building muscle, but you still need the proper stimulus.

    As for gaining muscle and losing fat... you need a caloric surplus to gain muscle. Naturally, you can gain about 1-1.5lb of LBM per month, but you need to be in a caloric surplus. Losing fat requires a caloric deficit. You cannot be in both surplus AND deficit at the same time. You CAN loser BF%, since keeping the same fat while gaining muscle will mean lower bf%.

    If you were somehow able to magically monitor your body's nutritional requirement 24/7 down to the cellular caloric needs leve, I suppose you could limit fat gain while increasing only LBM, however, that is not possible. So you eiter eat enough and gain a little fat while maximizing muscle gains, or you don't eat enough and limit muscle gains in order to restrict fat gain. But seeing that quick gains are quickly lost due to your body not being used to the rapid mass gain, and muscles burning a lot more calories than non-muscle matter, it would make sense to maximize LBM gain even if slight fat gain is accompanied.

    In short, do more research... I don't think you're ready for a cycle if you're asking questions about simple nutrition...
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    Epistane clone plain and simple from Mrsupps, CEL or RPN. I ASSume you are already working hard, eat right, and know to increase your workout volume, not necessarily weight. 6-8 weeks then PCT......
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    I wrote my recomp guide just to impress upon people the idea of what a recomp is and how much work it entails. If you want to gain muscle while losing fat, you have to do a lot of work. The anabolics you choose are a small piece of the puzzle.
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    Sorry man but 8-10lbs of LEAN muscle is quite hard to add. Even with the use of AAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijininjapan View Post
    PH/DS/ASS do not replace hard work, they just allow you to work harder.
    In other words, they make your body more efficient at building muscle, but you still need the proper stimulus.

    As for gaining muscle and losing fat... you need a caloric surplus to gain muscle. Naturally, you can gain about 1-1.5lb of LBM per month, but you need to be in a caloric surplus. Losing fat requires a caloric deficit. You cannot be in both surplus AND deficit at the same time. You CAN loser BF%, since keeping the same fat while gaining muscle will mean lower bf%.

    If you were somehow able to magically monitor your body's nutritional requirement 24/7 down to the cellular caloric needs leve, I suppose you could limit fat gain while increasing only LBM, however, that is not possible. So you eiter eat enough and gain a little fat while maximizing muscle gains, or you don't eat enough and limit muscle gains in order to restrict fat gain. But seeing that quick gains are quickly lost due to your body not being used to the rapid mass gain, and muscles burning a lot more calories than non-muscle matter, it would make sense to maximize LBM gain even if slight fat gain is accompanied.

    In short, do more research... I don't think you're ready for a cycle if you're asking questions about simple nutrition...
    although the surplus/deficit thing is true in a natural setting, it isnt true when anabolics are used.

    you can definitely gain muscle in a caloric deficit while on anabolics.

    nutrients are partitioned toward building muscle/maintaining muscle first while on anabolics - starving[losing] fat, while gaining muscle.

    although to a lesser extent, it does happen. you wont gain 15lbs in a deficit but, you can gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    although the surplus/deficit thing is true in a natural setting, it isnt true when anabolics are used.

    you can definitely gain muscle in a caloric deficit while on anabolics.

    nutrients are partitioned toward building muscle/maintaining muscle first while on anabolics - starving[losing] fat, while gaining muscle.

    although to a lesser extent, it does happen. you wont gain 15lbs in a deficit but, you can gain.
    The bigger you get the harder that is even with anabolics.
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    Sounds like you need to read more buddy. Steroids are only a tool to help increase gains. If you can't learn to slowly drop fat and increase muscle mass slightly each week without steroids, you wont do any better on steroids.
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    Sounds like you need to read more buddy. Steroids are only a tool to help increase gains. If you can't learn to slowly drop fat and increase muscle mass slightly each week without steroids, you wont do any better on steroids.
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    PP 1-T is what id go with in your shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Sorry man but 8-10lbs of LEAN muscle is quite hard to add. Even with the use of AAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Lang View Post
    Yes!
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