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shelf life of ph's

juice88

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i have a stash of multiple ph's that i purchased black friday in 2009. none have been opened and have been in a wooden box coverd and in a dark place. how long should these retain full potency? i also have an Opened bottle that has been in my bathroom for 8 months or so but has not been subject to moisture. i opened this bottle to finish a cycle and still have 90 percent left. this bottle expires in 5/11. are all these still good?
 
juice88 said:
i have a stash of multiple ph's that i purchased black friday in 2009. none have been opened and have been in a wooden box coverd and in a dark place. how long should these retain full potency? i also have an Opened bottle that has been in my bathroom for 8 months or so but has not been subject to moisture. i opened this bottle to finish a cycle and still have 90 percent left. this bottle expires in 5/11. are all these still good?
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aside from havoc everything else should be good for 5 years + if its kept in good shape and area.
 
panther77 said:
What is your reasoning on havoc not lasting? Just curious
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awhile back there was testing done on havoc to see how long you could keep it after the expire date.after the date or in bad kept shape it started to go bad.I'll see if I can find this test.
 
mich29 said:
awhile back there was testing done on havoc to see how long you could keep it after the expire date.after the date or in bad kept shape it started to go bad.I'll see if I can find this test.
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There was actually a real test done? I'd love to see it if you can find it. Everything I've ever been able to find on this is random conjecture, guessing, and a dose of mysticism.
 
ASFh32 said:
There was actually a real test done? I'd love to see it if you can find it. Everything I've ever been able to find on this is random conjecture, guessing, and a dose of mysticism.
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yea its driving me nuts trying to find it.it def made me re think about the whole ph/ds stash idea of a few years ago.
 
Ya know I've kept half a bottle of mdrol in the freezer and this year it doesn't seem so powerful. Of course I did 2 previous cycles at 20 so maybe I need to bump it to 30, but I ain't gonna!!
 
I have answered this question many times on this board, since I feel the answer provided me was correct based on expert knowledge.

I actually have a friend who rep'd for a major pharmaceutical company. He told me that absent extreme conditions to include extreme heat and/or humidity (orals), AAS/PH will remain effective for many years past expiration.

The two (2) year expiration date assigned to medication in the U.S. was simply adopted for liability and replinishment reasons($$$) and is the same across the board for all meds. The supplemnt industry simply followed along on this one. In the UK for example, it's five years across the board for the same medications.

So, keep it dry and kep it room temp, and dont worry about it.............

As far as the "HAVOC" breaking down report; according to posts by Patrick Arnold: without knowing the manufacturing process involved, it's impossible to determine if the process was flawed at some point or a breakdown occured that resulted in the DMT and sulfur content once it was bottled.
 
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