Due to my schedule I always have to do cardio after my weight-training sessions. I usually do anywhere from 20 to 45 minutes. I don't have my post-workout shake (whey, dextrose, creatine) until I finish cardio. Is 45 minutes too long?
With most nutrition in the general population, you're catabolic the entire weightlifting session. That's asinine to state something that isn't true. Your body's amino acid pool will provide adequate amounts of amino acids required for recovery (protein synthesis) during a 24 hour period. Think about this logically, it takes longer to digest and absorb amino acids from protein taken immediately after a workout than 'your' hour window to be beneficial. That's ridiculous.The longer you wait to drink a protein shake post-workout, the less time you have for the 90min window of opportunity when your muscles absorb the most nutrients.
Whey protein has a digestion time frame of around 30 mins, Hydrolyzed whey peptides are digested even faster. Waxy maize starch carbohydrates make it into your intestinal track within minutes. So it is easily achievable to deliver nutrition to your body within that time frame. Normal food may take over 2 hours to digest, but supplements allow for us to take full advantage of the IGF bolus that is released during heavy weight training sessions, This is where they get the 90 minute window where our muscles are absorbing larger amounts of nutrients. also I know you are somewhat catabolic already during training, but doing an additional 45 minutes of cardio without some source of nutrition will just further limit possible protein synthesis and extend the catabolic environment. other than artificial hormones, the best way to stimulate protein synthesis is to raise your blood amino acid levels far above normal levels. The longer you wait, the more time your missing out on raising muscular protein synthesis.With most nutrition in the general population, you're catabolic the entire weightlifting session. That's asinine to state something that isn't true. Your body's amino acid pool will provide adequate amounts of amino acids required for recovery (protein synthesis) during a 24 hour period. Think about this logically, it takes longer to digest and absorb amino acids from protein taken immediately after a workout than 'your' hour window to be beneficial. That's ridiculous.
It's evident you don't know much about human physiology. Not trying to target you specifically, but the majority of the people on these types of forums assume the same standards which are a misconception.Whey protein has a digestion time frame of around 30 mins, Hydrolyzed whey peptides are digested even faster. Waxy maize starch carbohydrates make it into your intestinal track within minutes. So it is easily achievable to deliver nutrition to your body within that time frame. Normal food may take over 2 hours to digest, but supplements allow for us to take full advantage of the IGF bolus that is released during heavy weight training sessions, This is where they get the 90 minute window where our muscles are absorbing larger amounts of nutrients. also I know you are somewhat catabolic already during training, but doing an additional 45 minutes of cardio without some source of nutrition will just further limit possible protein synthesis and extend the catabolic environment. other than artificial hormones, the best way to stimulate protein synthesis is to raise your blood amino acid levels far above normal levels. The longer you wait, the more time your missing out on raising muscular protein synthesis.
Not saying everything I said is 100% correct but thats just what I learned over the years of supplementation and weigh training. I would like to hear other peoples opinion on this issue also
Could you explain how it all works? All that I know is from what I have learned from bodybuilders and some power lifters I met over the years. Of course thats broscience thoIt's evident you don't know much about human physiology. Not trying to target you specifically, but the majority of the people on these types of forums assume the same standards which are a misconception.
please point to a single scientific study showing that there is a statistically significant differenct between having something within 90 minutes as opposed to 120 or 180. Not being sarcastic, i'd like to see it if there is one.supplements allow for us to take full advantage of the IGF bolus that is released during heavy weight training sessions, This is where they get the 90 minute window where our muscles are absorbing larger amounts of nutrients.
Digestion time varies between macronutrients. For protein, it greatly depends on the peptide chain length and the composition of amino acids (some follow different metabolic pathways than others). ALL protein must be broken down into its subsequent amino acids which are then deaminated (removal of nitrogen, humans cannot metabolize nitrogen). Then the amino acids must be absorbed through capillary beds into the vascular system and taken up by damaged (in this case of recovery). In most cases, damaged cells have an adequate amino acid pool in the cytoplasm stored for immediate protein translation/synthesis (which is why that time frame notion is ridiculous). Depending on the type of exercise performed will determine the gene expression and subsequently the types of proteins which will be synthesized.Could you explain how it all works? All that I know is from what I have learned from bodybuilders and some power lifters I met over the years. Of course thats broscience tho
No real scientific studies, Just Bioscience that has been told to me SOOO many times from SOO many bodybuilders, I just thought it was correct.please point to a single scientific study showing that there is a statistically significant differenct between having something within 90 minutes as opposed to 120 or 180. Not being sarcastic, i'd like to see it if there is one.
I'm sure you've figured it out by now but it really doesn't matter when you get your cals in throughout the day, just get them in..........you're on steroids bro! 8)Due to my schedule I always have to do cardio after my weight-training sessions. I usually do anywhere from 20 to 45 minutes. I don't have my post-workout shake (whey, dextrose, creatine) until I finish cardio. Is 45 minutes too long?
:scratchchin:I just get some isopure and melt it down into a spoon and force that **** right into my veins, needs to be done within 5 minutes post workout
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