What are "back pumps?"
- 11-20-2010, 07:54 AM
- 11-20-2010, 09:37 AM
I don't know how to describe it, but it aches like hell, and for some reason I get them without being on cycle, lucky me. Its sorta like a stiff feeling, so some stretching does help a lil, but I take taurine and gatorade, too.
I think its just the blood flow or something and your lower back is always under tension from holding up your upper body all day so it gets "pumped", like any other muscle would while your working it.True story:
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11-20-2010, 10:06 AM
11-20-2010, 10:27 AM
11-20-2010, 10:37 AM
If you ever do Good Mornings or lower back extensions (and deadlifts if you go down far enough), it's the same feeling you get from working your lower back hard when you feel the muscle "pumped" or flexed.
11-20-2010, 12:21 PM
11-20-2010, 12:29 PM
a proprietary blend of cramps+pumps+ I think someone back then said it was a sign of kidney irritation ??
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11-21-2010, 06:01 AM
11-21-2010, 06:14 AM
It's mainly from too much blood being forced through your kidneys. Taurine acts as a vasidilator here, relieving the pressure. There is also a milder form of backpump which is just when your erector spinae get too pumped (like from doing deadlifts). All orals have a tendency to do this.
11-21-2010, 08:11 AM
Sounds like if I ever do experience these, taurine is the way to go.
I'm sure that is available in either a powder or capsule form, right? And it would be taken before one's workout to ease the soon-to-be back pumps.
And I am sure that you have to play with the dosage to see what works for your particular body.
Cool. Thanks again, all!
11-21-2010, 08:45 AM
I just get NOW Taurine in big ole 1000mg horse pills.
Also, IDK if its the taurine or caffiene, but the monster energy drinks (low or no carb) help me out, too.
And I've read that if your kidneys are swollen they'll cause some discomfort, but don't how true it is.
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11-21-2010, 09:08 PM
I've been using about 9g of taurine with my pre-workout and it's pretty much made them completely non-existent (other than when I actually do focus on lower back lift days). I didn't use it until I actually noticed any problems (so for the first several weeks I didn't use any). I opt for powder and just put it in with my pre-workout.
11-22-2010, 07:52 AM
Yeah, just buy the bulk powder and take like 5g pre-workout. It doesn't taste like much (just a slight sweet/metallic taste).
11-22-2010, 01:38 PM
you guys are taking 5-9 grams of taurine at a time? no sh!t.....I guess I oughta up the ante as I've been taking maybe 2-3g a day...no wonder I'm always crabby LOL
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11-22-2010, 01:45 PM
Most guys always said 5-10 was what they were using. Mine has a 1.5g scoop (lol) and I started off with like 3g. Still got the pumps a bit, bumped to 6g, better, but still there. Jumped to 9g - boom, non-existent.
So, I don't think there's a clear-cut answer for all to follow - just start out w/ an amount and toy with it til you find that they aren't an issue anymore.
11-22-2010, 03:45 PM
11-22-2010, 06:44 PM
11-22-2010, 06:49 PM
They suuuuuccccckkkk! Shin/calf pumps are also a runners nightmare.
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11-22-2010, 06:50 PM
11-22-2010, 07:20 PM
11-22-2010, 11:52 PM
It's certainly caused by some combination of excess bloodflow to the kidneys + erector spinae and glycogen retention. Either way, it has nothing to do with estrogenic water retention and can be remedied with Taurine (and creatine and potassium to a lesser degree).
11-23-2010, 05:56 AM
Nowhere do I see anyone saying that back pumps are brought on by the use of PH's.
Sounds like anyone can get them at anytime, depending on the situation!
11-23-2010, 09:57 AM
Plenty of "PHs" (oral steroids) have a high potential for causing back pumps. Superdrol is notorious for this, and M1T was the worst back in the day. The others all do as well. The only ones unlikely to are 4-ad and 1,4-AD (since test and boldenone don't do this much).
12-07-2010, 04:13 PM
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12-07-2010, 06:35 PM
12-07-2010, 07:27 PM
I always say the good o' PH pumps is your liver kicking you saying "why are you doing this to me, I thought we were friends!" Lol
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12-07-2010, 07:42 PM
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