M1t / 4AD and Shutdown.. need fast recovery

[mysticman]

Hey bros,
I know this subject is all over the place and I have used the search key... but my question is pretty intricate. Im starting my cycle:

week1-4 4ad transdermal
week3-4 m1t 10mg/day w/ grapefruit Juice

supps with cycle:

Milk Thistle
Hawthorne Berry
Saw Palmetto
R-ALA
Potassim

My question lies in the shutdown.. Ive tried other PHs and havent really been shutdown before, so in preparation I have bought a multitude of supps and research chems to hopefully alleviate any probs that my come about.. plus my girl is a nympho and I gotta be able to deliver the goods... so for pct I have the following .. Im just not sure if I should take all of them or not.. can one counter the other or any be a bad mix? would it be overkill? Im really looking to get the boys back in business asap.

Nolvadex week 1-2/40mg week3-4/30mg
Clomid (day1-300mg / day2-11 100mg / day12-21 50mg)
6xo 600mg week 1-2 300 mg week 3-4
Legal Gear Formadrol V2 rec'd dosage
Biotest Tribex-rec'd dosage
Optimum ZMA - rec'd dosage
Cialis.. uhhh as needed


Is this all overkill? I guess Im being a bit precautious.. Or do I need arimidex and HCG to add in here too?

Thanks for your whatever advice you guys can offer!

 

[Lean One]

so for pct I have the following .. Im just not sure if I should take all of them or not.. can one counter the other or any be a bad mix? would it be overkill? Im really looking to get the boys back in business asap.

Nolvadex week 1-2/40mg week3-4/30mg
Clomid (day1-300mg / day2-11 100mg / day12-21 50mg)
6xo 600mg week 1-2 300 mg week 3-4
Legal Gear Formadrol V2 rec'd dosage
Biotest Tribex-rec'd dosage
Optimum ZMA - rec'd dosage
Cialis.. uhhh as needed


Is this all overkill?

Uhh... Yes. Pick one. Nolva or clomid.Add the ZMA,Tribex, and I would recomend Flax oil. The last and Most important ingredient you need is...TIME! Were talking about your endocrine system here. You can't just turn it on and off like flipping a switch. Don't worry. You should be able to perform. You just may not have a strong libido for a few weeks. The Tribex will help with that.

 

[CDB]

The last and Most important ingredient you need is...TIME! Were talking about your endocrine system here. You can't just turn it on and off like flipping a switch.

Sucks, don't it?

 

[SJA]

Lean One is right. I, personally don't think that you will experience that much shutdown with this cycle. But I'd follow his advice just the same. I would also 86 the Saw Palmetto unless you are already experiencing BPH.

How old are you mystic? Cialis??????

 

[supersoldier]

Isn't formadrol the same as formestane? If so you need to get rid of that for PCT as it can be mildly suppressive. The fastest way to recover from any cycle would be nolva and HCG. If you have access to HCG there's no reason not to use it, but only use it throughout the actual cycle or the first couple days after stopping the androgens while you start nolva.

 

[mysticman]

Great. Thanks for the great advice guys! Im 29 btw SJA. I got the cialias just in case... and to put in the mean neighbors dog food.. haha. j/k

 

[creator]

hey guys--i only got molecular nutrition's formastat for pct (along w milk thistle and the like) for pct. i'm told that this isnt good enough, that i need clomind, nolva, etc--but formastat is a breast cancer drug, like the effective 6-oxo. wouldnt formastat therefore be effective for pct? please help?

 

[maggmaster]

NO foremestane can be mildly suppressive

 

[200wannabe]

Isn't formadrol the same as formestane? If so you need to get rid of that for PCT as it can be mildly suppressive. The fastest way to recover from any cycle would be nolva and HCG. If you have access to HCG there's no reason not to use it, but only use it throughout the actual cycle or the first couple days after stopping the androgens while you start nolva.

Do you feel HCG would be advantageous in this situation, with it only being a four week cycle? Do you think it would speed recovery? I know you have extensive blood work on these types of compounds have you used HCG?