Tolerance to M1T via 1-test?

[CEDeoudes59]

We touched on this a bit before in a certain thread.

I wondered what the chances are of building a tolerance to 1-test from M1T. I want to plan for the long run - and don't want to be too aggressive with either compound.

Also what is the best way to make sure to don't build a tolerance -- simply time off? Does alternating compounds hold any scientific validity in terms of slowing androgen tolerance?

Any thoughts, feedback, experiences are appriciated.
thanks guys

 

[TheManGuy]

I'd say the longer since your body has 'seen' a androgen the longer it will take to build a tolerance.

The dosage plays the main role though. Using a high dose will cause lower doses to be less effective.

Lastly it would depent hom much lean bodymass you already carry. 200mg ed of 1-test will not get you to 300lb's for example.

 

[CEDeoudes59]

Thank you for your response.

 

[Skark]

I think it will also help if you use a DIFFERENT compound the next time. Like alternating cycles of say:

1. M1T
2. M1,4ADD
3. M4OHN and/or MD

Basically, this is my plan.

 

[lifted]

Hey deoudes, just wondering bro, what kind of 1-T are you mainly stocking up on?

IE, dermals, orals, liposomes, etc??

If the price was right, I wouldn't mind stocking up on some 1-AD....I really liked it, but like I said earlier, the tolerance just hits me pretty quick...I wonder since it's been so long since I last used any 1-tets, if I could get some descent results again...??

 

[CEDeoudes59]

Hey deoudes, just wondering bro, what kind of 1-T are you mainly stocking up on?

IE, dermals, orals, liposomes, etc??

If the price was right, I wouldn't mind stocking up on some 1-AD....I really liked it, but like I said earlier, the tolerance just hits me pretty quick...I wonder since it's been so long since I last used any 1-tets, if I could get some descent results again...??

Yeah man, the price is never right on 1-ad. My two best cycles were with 1-ad. I have lots of 1-test powder. I was going to run 1-test in conjunction with M1,4add - but I missed buying a lot of powder. So I plan to pair it with 4-ad (for 2weekers lean bulk), M4OHN (for cutting), MD (for some reason).

I was running a little 2 weeker of 4-ad and 1-test. It was an old BDC T-1 Transdermal. I was 8 days in and I decided to stop - I wasn't really responding:
I'm not sure if it was dosage (~180mg 1-test daily, ~180 4-ad daily) w/o DMSO.
Or maybe I have a tolerance to 1-test (I really really doubt it).
Or I just ran M4OHN for 4 weeks - and I need to recover.

 

[jjjd]

for old skool, non-methylateds, 1-ad was a pretty good product, imo.

imo and ime, it was the first PH/PS to ever offer REAL muscular gains (the 4-ad cyclos were good for workout intensity and focus, though) at least in the same ballpark as conventional AAS.

one still usually needs to dose 1-ad at a level well beyond the label rec's, which makes it all the more expensive.

when one can buy bulk powders now (for injectable/transd/orals) and also methyls in bulk powders, 1-ad is a very bad deal, cost-wise.

it might have been a decent deal if PA ever decided to sell 1-ad powder in bulk. i am assuming that since he has the patent, that is why nobody else offers it?

 

[lifted]

Yeah man, the price is never right on 1-ad. My two best cycles were with 1-ad. I have lots of 1-test powder. I was going to run 1-test in conjunction with M1,4add - but I missed buying a lot of powder. So I plan to pair it with 4-ad (for 2weekers lean bulk), M4OHN (for cutting), MD (for some reason).

I was running a little 2 weeker of 4-ad and 1-test. It was an old BDC T-1 Transdermal. I was 8 days in and I decided to stop - I wasn't really responding:
I'm not sure if it was dosage (~180mg 1-test daily, ~180 4-ad daily) w/o DMSO.
Or maybe I have a tolerance to 1-test (I really really doubt it).
Or I just ran M4OHN for 4 weeks - and I need to recover.

Thats cool.... LOL @ the MD comment...

Yeah, you may wanna up the 1-test to maybe 300mg/day?? Dunno though, I doubt you could get THAT much of a tolerance like you said, but you never know...

 

[lifted]

for old skool, non-methylateds, 1-ad was a pretty good product, imo.

imo and ime, it was the first PH/PS to ever offer REAL muscular gains (the 4-ad cyclos were good for workout intensity and focus, though) at least in the same ballpark as conventional AAS.

one still usually needs to dose 1-ad at a level well beyond the label rec's, which makes it all the more expensive.

when one can buy bulk powders now (for injectable/transd/orals) and also methyls in bulk powders, 1-ad is a very bad deal, cost-wise.

it might have been a decent deal if PA ever decided to sell 1-ad powder in bulk. i am assuming that since he has the patent, that is why nobody else offers it?

Yep, I agree....1-AD was actually my first cycle and I responded great to it...
I was happy as hell, and really had no side-effects but a little high BP and minimal hair-loss...

About the patent, dunno, good question...

 

[CEDeoudes59]

Yeah, you may wanna up the 1-test to maybe 300mg/day?? Dunno though, I doubt you could get THAT much of a tolerance like you said, but you never know...

I forget though, what can I expect in the first week of 1-test with a low dose of 4-ad...? probably not much right?

I've got so much school work to do, so 7 days in I just said screw it - if I cant go at 100% and eat at 100% - than I shouldn't be doing it. The pumps were nice though.

 

[lifted]

I forget though, what can I expect in the first week of 1-test with a low dose of 4-ad...? probably not much right?

I've got so much school work to do, so 7 days in I just said screw it - if I cant go at 100% and eat at 100% - than I shouldn't be doing it. The pumps were nice though.

Yeah really not much IMO either....just some descent pumps like you said...

Good attitude to have to....save it for when you got more time cuz you'll be kicking yourself for it when you only got one bottle left 3 years from now...

MAn, that reminds me, I need to pick some stuff up before the **** hits the fan to.... :shoot: