What oral to stack with oral winny?

[Maxwell600]

Epistrong or Tren?
I've got enough of both to do 4 weeks of 30mg a day for epi or 100mg of tren.
No test base, (live with parents).
Winny cycle will be 6 weeks at 50-75, taper up taper down. Start the stacked oral at beginning or on 3rd week? thanks.

 

[wastedwhiteboy2]

Winny will lean you up but not put on much muscle. Tren might be better than epistrong but harder on the liver. Both are methyls. Any other options?

 

[bigpapa]

you should really run a test base. winnie (just like any steroid) has the possibility to cause shutdown. the gains will also be easier kept if you run a test. also, what is ur bf%? if ur above 12% the general concensus is that you will not see very much results unless ur below that.