Bloodwork after M4OHN

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  1. Bloodwork after M4OHN


    Everything is fine.
    4 weeks of M4OHN, up to 30mg by the final week.
    Other information is in my cycle log.


    Hepatic Function Panel (7)
    Protein, Total, Serum = 7.3 g/dL (6.0-8.5)
    Albumin, Serum = 4.2 g/dL (3.5 - 5.5)
    Bilirubin, Total = 0.4 mg/dL (0.1 - 1.2)
    Bilirubin, Direct = 0.15 mg/dL (0.0 - 0.4)
    Alkaline Phophatase, Serum = 76 IU/L (25-160)
    AST (SGOT) = 19 IU/L (0-40)
    ALT (SGPT) = 23 IU/L (0-40)

    Lipid Panel with LDL/HDL ratio
    Cholestrol, Total = 127 mg/dL (100-199)
    Triglycerides = 137 mg/dL (0-149)
    HDL Cholesterol = 41 mg/dL (40-59)
    VLDL Cholestrol Cal = 27 mg/dL (5-40)
    LDL Cholestrol Calc = 59 mg/dL (0-99)
    LDL/HDL Ratio = 1.4 ratio units (0.0 - 3.6)

    If you see anything out of the ordinary - let me know
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  2. Cycle length / dosages / stats pretty please?
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  3. Thanks for the update, more guys should be getting blood work done. But this is a mild compound.

  4. Thanks for posting Deoudes!

    I'm starting to think of M4ohn as an improved 4AD, a nice base for a lot of different stacks, can be used for cutting, bulking et cetera. Nice mild pumps and reasonable increase in strength. The stuff doesn't even aggrevate my acne to any noticable extent...and hardly any bloating.

    I'm glad to see its easy on the liver as well.

  5. question, we always talk about checking liver values.
    How about the kidneys?
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  6. Hows the hair? On Paper m4ohn should be harmless... I just want to be sure though.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  7. How far after the cycle did you get blood work done?Pct?


    thanks

  8. i like what I see. thanks for posting.


    Did you get any acne?



    what were your net pounds?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    question, we always talk about checking liver values.
    How about the kidneys?
    What was your creatinine value? Also any electrolyte values or bloodcount numbers? It really looks pretty good, otherwise. Liver looks like your not even on, and cholesterol info suggests that the rumers are true about this stuffs progestinic potential. Are you suppressed at all?

  10. did you get test, LH, and progesterone levels with the bloodwork?

  11. Holy cow.....I think all the follow up questions caused him to pass out...lol.

    I don't blame ya'll though. I want as much info on M4ohn as I can get!

  12. Sooooo, you know the next questions right?

    If liver values are good, it would be reasonable to stack with another methyl, say 6mg/day of m-dien, or 5-10mgs a day with m1t?

    Edit: This is to say that r-ala will be taken for liver protection as well.

    Personally, I plan on using 4-AD trans + m4ohn at 16mgs for a 4 week bulk and then a 4 week cut and maybe swapping out the 4ad for m4oht and adding clen.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine
    Hows the hair? On Paper m4ohn should be harmless... I just want to be sure though.
    at 20mg I noticed some shedding. It's safe with propecia. Its a good choice if your predisposed to MPB.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by willieman
    How far after the cycle did you get blood work done?Pct?


    thanks
    about 7 days I got the bloodwork. PCT was nolva 40mg for 10days, 20mg for 5 days. Fully Recovered.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Governor
    i like what I see. thanks for posting.


    Did you get any acne?



    what were your net pounds?

    No acne, I don't get acne though.
    Net was ~ -10 lbs but increases in strength.
    view log for more detail
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    did you get test, LH, and progesterone levels with the bloodwork?
    nope, that cost me $500 last time.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by PastorofMuppets
    Sooooo, you know the next questions right?

    If liver values are good, it would be reasonable to stack with another methyl, say 6mg/day of m-dien, or 5-10mgs a day with m1t?

    Edit: This is to say that r-ala will be taken for liver protection as well.

    Personally, I plan on using 4-AD trans + m4ohn at 16mgs for a 4 week bulk and then a 4 week cut and maybe swapping out the 4ad for m4oht and adding clen.
    It would be the safest Methyl to stack with M1T (IMO). But I'd say do a high dose of 1-test.

    Cut with 1-test and M4OHN (unless you worry about any hair issues)
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    question, we always talk about checking liver values.
    How about the kidneys?

    bumping my question
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    bumping my question
    like I asked before, what was you creatine value? Also you height and weight

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    like I asked before, what was you creatine value? Also you height and weight
    creatatine? I don't know -
    I gave you everything on the lab report.
    6'1'' 205-210lbs started cycle @ 215-220
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    creatatine? I don't know -
    I gave you everything on the lab report.
    6'1'' 205-210lbs started cycle @ 215-220
    Right, my bad, creatinine not creatine. You would have to do a 24hr urine to really determine the kidney status. If you drink plenty of H2O, and are not prone to stone formation, I would guess that this compound would not be too hard on the kidneys. High BP/salt ret. is one of the main culprits, and high protein w/out enough liquids, and this stuff sound fairly dry.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Right, my bad, creatinine not creatine. You would have to do a 24hr urine to really determine the kidney status. If you drink plenty of H2O, and are not prone to stone formation, I would guess that this compound would not be too hard on the kidneys. High BP/salt ret. is one of the main culprits, and high protein w/out enough liquids, and this stuff sound fairly dry.
    thanks for the info. Definitily drinking lots of water, is that all the main aspects to kidney function?
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  23. Actually, kidneys are more complex that you might guess. Consume as much citrate, acetate, or bicarb as you can to avoid stone probs, and drink a lot to avoid uric acid and creatinine related probs. But if you get a UTI, acidify yourself instead. Drop the citrate and take ascorbic, salicylic, mandelic(cranberry) acid. Take care of your kidneys, mainly just drink all day and stay close to the bathroom

  24. where the hell are the log forums?

  25. One comment. If liver values are normal after a cycle, that does not mean that liver damage did not occur during the cycle. It just means that it was not occurring at the time of the blood test. You can get (and I have) normal liver values after running M 1-T and I strongly doubt that it is easy on the liver.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Governor
    where the hell are the log forums?
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=13
  27. Talking


    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    question, we always talk about checking liver values.
    How about the kidneys?
    BUUUUUUMP!!!

    I've asked this on another BB board and got myself flamed can you believe it?

    Maybe I'm naive but I thought we are all here (BB Forums in general) to learn?

    But saying that this firum seems to be much more intelligent and 'adult' than most other ones out there!

    Just my 2p worth.

    LM

  28. >One comment. If liver values are normal after a cycle, that does not
    >mean that liver damage did not occur during the cycle. It just means
    >that it was not occurring at the time of the blood test. You can get
    >(and I have) normal liver values after running M 1-T and I strongly
    >doubt that it is easy on the liver.

    Cogar-- Can you explain this a bit more? You are saying that even with liver damage, numbers may look OK. This implies that liver values do not determine liver damage.

    If that's true, then how do drug company evaluate hepatoxicity when seeking FDA approval? (Please, no comments about the politics of drug companies and their money-hungry ways. I'm trying to focus on a specific question.) Thanks.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    about 7 days I got the bloodwork. PCT was nolva 40mg for 10days, 20mg for 5 days. Fully Recovered.
    So in total you ran 15 days PCT following a 28 day cycle? Was it not necessary to run PCT for 28 days on completion of your cycle?

    Did you notice any gain/loss of libido on / post cycle?

    Good info thanks for sharing.

  30. Only question I have is how was the shutdown? Testicular size after 4 weeks?
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