if your looking to retain maxium size, deca is the way to go. however, it is a slow lean mass builder so you may want to extended your cycle to 16 or 20 weeks. (running 750mg with deca at 16 to 20 weeks is not a big deal)
x2... tren i actually lost about 20lbs when i was using it but looked bigger and veinier...and my waist shrunk alot.
Tren< I dont know, Deca, 400mg-ish a week
yeah 400mg a week is my sweet spot as well.
well...have u ever used tren before?
Liquidrone is as close as I've come to tren.
What sides would one need to look for? Prolactin related sides?
Yes,also bp,sleep,sweats,libdo,limp d*ck.All the norm side's from tren.Just keep your eyes open you will no if something is wrong.Have all your support sups in order.I would have some caber or some prami on hand.
I'll probably just go deca. I already sweat like hell in my sleep. I don't need to make it worse.
Have you ran dbol or tbol? I would stick to something you have ran before if you are running tren or deca for the first time.That is what i would do if you haven't ran them before.what are you looking for? if you want more mass in the end run the test,deca,dbol and you will get it if your diet and workout's are good.I am guessing they are since you are running these kind of cycle's and dose's you have exp. with test and orals.You don't want to run to many things in one cycle that you have not run before.If side arise you want to know what is causing them and deal with that.Plus you should be able to get enough out of test,deca and not need the oral,but if you want a kick start dbol is run a lot with a test,deca combo.If i were to run tren it would be test p ,tren ace, var or winny and this would be cutting not for a all out bulk.
Yeah that is what i would do for what it sounds like you are looking for.
The goal of this is to build the "foundation" of my physique. I read a post by unreal the other day where he said most of his physique was built in one insane bulking phase. I'm gonna disregard veins and abs for a while and go straight for what I really want.... To be freakin huge. I will lose the fat before summer with circuit training and my interval timer, but during the winter it's gonna be heavy lifts and caloric and hormonal surplus.
Agreed with that.That is the way to go.So go with the test,deca,dbol and you should blow up!And with winter coming up you don't need to worry about the beach bod.
Sounds good,Good luck with the cycle,i think you will be happy with the mass.
When do you plan to run this cycle, I was actually thinking of something similar but so far mine looks like
Be a little cautious though. That specific cycle is the first one that made me realize how gear takes a toll on your body (and I've done my share). I gained way too much, way too quick. My calves were shot from carrying the weight.
This is all wrong bro,these doses are way to low.you can keep the low dose sd if that is what works for you but the test needs to be double what the deca is.Also for your first cycle you would be better going with 500mg of test e for 10-12 weeks.Save the deca for next cycle when you know how the test is going to treat you.use the sd to kick start the test cycle and you should make some good gains.
Not too get off track or ignore OP, but if it's your first run and you really want to stack for a bulk I would take EQ over Deca any day.
I agree a 100%.Your health is number one and being careful is a must with any cycle.
Probably gonna run in nov or dec. I would'nt think about using less than 500mg of test a week. You need at least that much test. Test needs to be higher than Deca to not lessen thwe chances of libido issues.
, hit up a 4th week of it though, coincides better with when the test E is "kicking in," that and I love the 4th week on SD
I cut my cardio down to about 15 minutes HIIT 3 times a week just to keep my heart going. That helped a bit.
If it's your first run with test I wouldn't go over 600 mg. The decanoate ester is very long, longer than enanthate, I would run the deca 12-14 weeks. I like that you threw the proviron in there, especially where u did, 8-12. You must have read about its SHBG suppressing effect. Nice. And as much as i love the tren ph, I think in this instance its overkill. Winny is harsh enough on your lipids and joints, I wouldn't push it. Oh and btw the tren ph is not methylated.
Ive had a few runs with test E. I didnt mean to put test 2, I meant test E. I was wondering about leaving the winny off and keeping the proviron and tren ph instead for the last 4 weeks. The last 4 weeks are gonna be an attempt to lean up a bit before I come off. :spam:
You runnin any HCG bro?
Need is an awful strong word there, I've run deca at 2x test and not had libido issues (300/600)
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