M5AA w/ M4ohn for mass and strenght?
- 06-07-2004, 09:42 PM
- 06-07-2004, 10:00 PM
honestly, i never tried mag10, but i would have to say yes anyway. if your mean true 'mass' you gotta put some test, 1-test, or 4ad in too
- 06-08-2004, 08:02 AM
It would be good for strength, but not much for mass. M4OHN does not come close to 1-test/4ad or m1t for mass gains.
06-08-2004, 09:39 AM
You are comparing all different compounds. 1-test/4-AD are good for mass and strength. M40HN & M5AA are good for strength, vascularity, and body comp changes.
06-08-2004, 10:26 AM
Hey NPursuit,Originally Posted by NPursuit
What about stacking all 4. I was thinking of doing this in 3 weeks for a 6 week cycle.
06-08-2004, 10:32 AM
You could runOriginally Posted by barryb1
1-test wk 1-6
4-ad wk 1-6
m40hn wk 1-3 or 4
m5aa wk 4 or 5-6
That would make for some nice mass,strength, and vascularity.
06-08-2004, 10:41 AM
Thanks man, that looks good. You know in the past 3 years of using bb.com and in the last 6 months of using this loacation, I've gotten better response here.Originally Posted by NPursuit
Hey have you tried LMR's Premotest? I was planning on using that product for my 1-test.
As you can tell money is not a problem for me. First, I'm going to see my doctor to have blood work and a check up done and in 3 weeks do my cycle and then see my doctor again.
Thanks again and keep that good information coming here and at bb.com
06-08-2004, 01:59 PM
I haven't used it but I know of a few people that have and they liked the results. You will see better gains if you use a 1-test/4-AD transdermal. LMR's products just like VPX's are underdosed. Good choice on getting blood work done before your cycle. It's always good to know where you are at before you start.Originally Posted by barryb1
06-08-2004, 02:15 PM
Thanks again NPursuit.Originally Posted by NPursuit
I have to do an oral cycle. I have a 3 year old girl and last year I did SuperONE+ and I put it on at night and at 12:00 noo. Anyway, sometimes in the middle of the night she comes down stairs and sleep in my bed with my wife and I. Some of the stuff rub off on her body (arms, back) while I carry her downstairs to our beadroom. Her private swole-up and we had to take her to a doctor. Her had excess male hormones in her body. After 3 months the doctor care of it but I will never do a transdermal cycle again.
I even use gloves.
06-08-2004, 02:46 PM
I don't blame you.Originally Posted by barryb1
06-08-2004, 04:05 PM
lolOriginally Posted by cyberseano
Maybe you could make her happy by using injectables and showing her your syringes and vials.
06-08-2004, 06:10 PM
Barryb1, why do you want to use mag 10? It's way overpriced. Go to bb.com I think they have Higher Power 1-test ethergels on sale (orals). Also you'll need lower dose, cuz it's ethergels.
06-08-2004, 08:06 PM
NPURSUIT_____ great answer exactly what i was looking for ...also a great stack to try....and i think im going to try that stack and c what happens im gonne start in two weeks so ill keep everyone updated
also what do u think about mag 1O??? seems to work great
and what brand 1T u suggest ....i have used Moleculer Nutrition eithers seems to work great but after the cycle strength seems to fade fast
06-08-2004, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cyberseano
I convinced my wife that pinning is the way to go after her period started waaay earlier than normal from my 1T/4AD/oht trans cycle.
The hormones are pretty damned transferable. I hardly ever sweat and I always let the stuff dry completely before going near her but it still messed her up.
06-08-2004, 08:57 PM
Npursuit, why did you recommend starting w/ the m4ohn and ending w/ the far more adrogenic and suppresive m5aa? Did you get it switched or do you have some logic to this?!
06-08-2004, 11:04 PM
Some people like to end their cycle with M5AA for a "drier" finish to get rid of some fat/bloat from a bulking compoud.Originally Posted by DR.D
06-08-2004, 11:17 PM
OK, but I don't know if I'd call m4ohn a 'bulking compound' I kinda thought that the 1-test/4-ad all the way through the cycle covered that. But I do get what your saying cause I like to end a cycle w/ halo. Talk about dry, but suprisingly non-suppresive. I usually cheat on the PCT and cut it in half so forgive my distorted sense of reality I like to start letro about midway and lasix toward the end too sometimes.
06-08-2004, 11:51 PM
M4OHN is definitely not a bulker, but a good strength increasing ph. the 1T+4ad will bloat the hell outta you going 6 weeks. M5AA would be good for the last 2 weeks, but i would drop the 4-ad in the last 2 weeks if the goal is a dry finish IMHO.Originally Posted by DR.D
06-08-2004, 11:57 PM
Lance, what is your experience w/ m4ohn and what do you like for PCT?
06-09-2004, 12:11 AM
Did 5 weeks of M4OHN at 10mg/day after a failed 2week MD cycle. gained good strength and about 3-4 pounds. not a good bulker at all, but i felt great on it. actually stacked it with M5AA for 3 weeks, 4-ad for 3 weeks, and 5 days of M1T @5mg at the end. yeah, i'm a hard gainer. PCT i do the usual nolva and trans 6-OXO+7Keto. retained it all 6 weeks post cycle and actually gained another 2 pounds on satur8+nitrous even with increased cardio. next cycle i will start M4OHN @15mg and MD @10mg.Originally Posted by DR.D
06-09-2004, 12:24 AM
Interesting, I take a similar approach. I'm a hard gainer too. So how shut down do you get from a cycle like that and how much nolva do you use? Have you ever tried taldafil? 24/7 pumps but keeps your peter on swole too, kinda bothersome @ times. Why did your MD cycle fail?Originally Posted by lancelot
06-09-2004, 12:43 AM
nolva dosage standard 1week @40mg, 2nd week @30mg, 3rd week@20mg and 4th week@10g. I started 6-oxo at week 3 and taperred down to week 5. shutdown was a breeze compared to 3-4 week M1T cycles. i have viagra and cialis, but no need on this cycle. But, i wouldn't think of using it for pumps as uncontrollable boners would be quite embarrasing in public. MD failed due to low dosage and short cyle time-2weeks@3mg did nada! ran outta MD beta liquid so i jumped on M4OHN.Originally Posted by DR.D
06-09-2004, 08:12 AM
Lancelot got my logic behind this cycle correct. I would start with the M40HN to kickstart strength gains and finish with the M5AA to harden up.Originally Posted by DR.D
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