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I've used up to 30mg of M1t. Anyone used a high doses like 50mg? I had no sides on 30mg, so I'm thinking about upping the dose.
alot has shown that high dosses like that are really not any more effective than say 15-20 mg. you will really be stressing your liver with that dosage especially at a 4 week cycle.I've used up to 30mg of M1t. Anyone used a high doses like 50mg? I had no sides on 30mg, so I'm thinking about upping the dose.
I'm just curious of what kind of results you received. Also, how many cycles have you done, were they stacked wit anything, and how long were they for?I've used up to 30mg of M1t. Anyone used a high doses like 50mg? I had no sides on 30mg, so I'm thinking about upping the dose.
I don't believe Bobo ever went over 30. He quickly went back down to 20 because the back cramping was too severe. I would hate to see someone's liver values on 50mg/day of M1T. :gore:I think Bobo upped his dose to somewhere close to 50mg and promptly backed down due to sides. I haven't seen many threads where people go above 30 mg usually for the same reason.
Check out my last M1T thread, I was at 40mg for awhile, and hit 50mg for about 2 days or so. Sides weren't really too harsh the entire time.I would hate to see someone's liver values on 50mg/day of M1T. :gore:
I agree for about 95% of all those who train, but for some very large and experienced steroid users, 20 mgs isn't enough. I would never in my right mind ever go above 15-20 mgs of M1T, but do you think 20 mgs would do anything for Ronnie Coleman? Yeah right. As far as I know, there are not too many Ronnie Colemans on this board, but a very few amount of people have burnt out their receptors so badly that 20mgs isn't enough. VERY VERY FEWgoing above 20 mg is imo stupid. Maybe some people won't get bad sides, but at 15-20 mg I had sides that made my life a misery. I had bloody noses and head under-water feeling all day long along with low back pump pain that made it painful for me to sit/stand. If you can deal with the sides go for it, M1T is a very very strong oral and I suggest that people take it responsibly.
LOL man I can't keep up with all of your cycles and test results.Check out my last M1T thread, I was at 40mg for awhile, and hit 50mg for about 2 days or so. Sides weren't really too harsh the entire time.
How much did you gain?1st cycle of m1t was 50mg a day for 28 days straight. Only noticeable side was lower back cramping to the point I had trouble walking sometimes and occasionally my head felt like it does when you are in an airplane. That only happend 2 times that I can remember. No bloody noses, no lethargy, nothing.
No, I didn't get blood work.
rictor, you are making the classic N=1 mistake. iow, if it applies to YOU, it must apply to everybody. going above 20mg may be stupid for YOU due to the negative sides etc. you experienced at those doses, but many others tolerate those doses quite well, and may do better at higher doses.
telling people it is STUPID to go above 20mg does not add to the discussion and is simply not true.
I am not flaming in any way, but this is where I disagree. Who has suggested that you assess your tolerance by starting at 20mg/day to see how you feel? I haven't seen that recommendation on this board. You are suggesting that one use double the recommended dosage? IMO, starting at that level is not being responsible. I understand that recommended doses on the bottles are usually low for legal purposes, etc. But, a more responsible way to assess your tolerance is to begin at a low dose and increase it during a cycle, or even safer, cycle to cycle. There are some people who experience unbearable sides from just 5mg's. What works for one person doesn't mean it will work for another, like jjjd indicated. This is just an example, but would you recommend to someone who has never used clen before to start at double the recommended dosage? I hope not.All I am doing is issuing a fair warning and if you haven't take M1T before it is suggested that you assess your tolerance by starting at 20mg/day and seeing how you feel.
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