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Alcohol and Orals...?

  1.  07-28-2010  04:39 AM
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    Alcohol and Orals...?


    Just wondering how much your genetics play a role in this...

    My buddy is on 40mg/s dbol ed and gets drunk every weekend. He's convinced liver toxicity is genetic and he has never had problems in teh past so hes going to continue to keep drinking.

    Your thoughts?



  2.  07-28-2010  06:00 AM
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    Everyone is different yes, and there may be some people who experience only slight liver toxicity from orals. But, your buddy is an idiot. Just because you "feel" ok, does not mean that you are.

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    Alcohol and Bodybuilding


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    2) It lowers testosterone levels and increases estrogen.

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    It’s important to have fun in life, but too much fun can lead to problems. If you’re serious about achieving significant muscle-building results, you definitely need to monitor your intake of alcohol and make sure that you are consuming it in moderation. A few drinks here and there shouldn’t be a problem, but if you find yourself drinking every weekend you can almost certainly kiss your muscle gains goodbye.

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  4.  07-28-2010  06:26 AM
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    Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    But, your buddy is an idiot. Just because you "feel" ok, does not mean that you are.
    Summed up right there.

    The only way your buddy will know the effect of alcohol with dbol on his liver is with a blood test.

  5.  07-28-2010  08:12 AM
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    My thoughts are he is young and stupid.

    That being said, the odds are in his favor that he wont have any long term issues.

    Still not worth risking, and honestly its a waste of gear to not take your training and diet seriously when on steroids.

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    Obviously you're buddy isn't serious about his training and physique if he's getting drunk every weekend. In that case he shouldn't be using gear..

    While it is not gonna hurt you that bad to have a few drinks on orals. e.g. having a glass of wine with dinner, or having a few beers for a football game on sunday isn't gonna kill ya. But getting drunk every weekend is just pushing it.. So yeah you're buddy is an idiot, don't listen to him.

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    Good read DarkHalf. Thanks buddy

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    Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Good read DarkHalf. Thanks buddy
    anytime

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    Originally Posted by daballer2005 View Post
    He's convinced liver toxicity is genetic
    That's a moronic statement if i've ever seen one... hopefully he meant tolerance to toxicity is genetic and that's true but any liver has its breaking point and blindly pushing yourself to that breaking point is retarded.
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    Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    That's a moronic statement if i've ever seen one... hopefully he meant tolerance to toxicity is genetic and that's true but any liver has its breaking point and blindly pushing yourself to that breaking point is retarded.
    LMAO....... Genetics bro, all genetics when it comes to you're liver. lol

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    Wait....i thought you had to take your drol with a shot of 151 to enhance the absorption???...thats what ive been doing..

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    What's really wrong with that post is that it's legal for an idiot to get drunk, possible alcohol poisoning, possible DUI every weekend but it's illegal to use steroids even if you're not an idiot. I'm sure when he's interviewed by Primetime live investigators in the next attack on AA, his liver failure was due to the steroids and not the Bacardi 151!

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    Originally Posted by MikeGfilms View Post
    Wait....i thought you had to take your drol with a shot of 151 to enhance the absorption???...thats what ive been doing..
    No dude it's stoli and GFJ!

  15.  07-30-2010  01:35 PM
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    Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    No dude it's stoli and GFJ!
    Hahaha how could i have foregot! nothing like a nice mixed drink with your daily drol

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