2 wks. or 4 wks. on M1T (Opinions)

[UncalledFor]

I would like to get everyones opinion on how long their cycles of M1T should last? 2 weeks or 4 weeks. I have already started my 4 week cycle. I am 6'4 218lbs. I just finished my 1st week. Gained 4 lbs so far. thanks

 

[Longdog]

I've run it both ways with success. I find it shuts you down real hard on 4 weekers, but the gains are more keepable with 4 weeks, opposed to a 2-weeker. Most of the weight gain comes in weeks 1-2, but the strength comes in weeks 3-4. My last 4-weeker left me with a long libido recovery time. I hope you're running 4ad with it.

 

[jas123]

If it were me I would go 2 weeks since M1T shuts you down pretty hard. The more
hardcore guys seem to swear by 4 weeks, but you have to do PCT for longer and can't
start another cycle for longer.

 

[hogiejoe]

the shut down is so bad after a 4 weeker i will never do it again.

 

[strangebrew]

Today is my last day of a 3 weeker. Ran it by itself, up about 10 lbs, good strength increases. I'd do it again, didn't really have any bad sides.

 

[raylewis]

If it were me I would go 2 weeks since M1T shuts you down pretty hard. The more
hardcore guys seem to swear by 4 weeks, but you have to do PCT for longer and can't
start another cycle for longer.

How long are the 4 weekers doing PCT on average out of curiosity? I'm 8 days in and have read that I should be doing 4-6 weeks PCT if I were to go 4 weeks. I was only planning on 2 weeks my 1st time out on M1T/4AD.

 

[hogiejoe]

i went all out and did chrysin for 4 weeks.

j/k i did nolva, clomid and zma and it was still a bitch to recover. for 4 weeks

 

[Jarconis]

maybe 3 weeks is the optimal time for m1t?

 

[Cuffs]

I've done the two week on/off/on, and the 4 week. Had no problems with either, and will only do the 4 week from now on. I kept most of my gains with the 4 week, and less with the two. I stacked the two week with 4AD, and the 4 week with 4AD/OHT. Never got shut down, no bad sides, except for back cramping for a couple of days, and acne during PCT. I never dosed above 10mg's. I believe it just depends on the individual and how they react to it.

 

[scipio]

Little off topic but I have a question. I'm on my Third week of m1t @ 5mg. I just got my m4ohn, and I'd really like to try it out so I'm wondering if anyone thinks it would be a bad idea to start the m4ohn at the end of this week and run it for 3-4weeks.
It would look like:
weeks 1-3 5mg M1T
weeks 3-6 5mg M4ohn
7+ pct

If I did this shouldn't it make my PCT easier?

 

[jas123]

raylewis,

I would have 6 weeks worth of PCT supplies if you decide to do a 4 week cycle,
and play it by ear. If you are recovering fast, cut it off at 4. Maybe you need more
6 weeks, individual reactions vary as you can tell by reading the other posts here.

You could try the 2 weeker now. Then a 3 weeker later and see how hard that shuts
you down before moving to a 4 weeker.

 

[DieTrying]

I ran 6 weeks and liked it.

 

[UncalledFor]

So I went to the gym today. When I got there, I started with wide grip pullups. Afterwards I caught a glimpse of my arms. They were freakin huge. I get great pumps, not to mention I am experimenting with BSN Nitrix, while on this stack. M1t, 4AD, and Nitrix work great. I weighed in at 219 today. I have gained 5 lbs. in 9 days. Holla back.

 

[UncalledFor]

Oh by the way, I am running a 3 week cycle not 4, with 4 week PCT.

 

[strangebrew]

Oh by the way, I am running a 3 week cycle, with 4 week PCT.

Good deal. Yesterday was my last day of my 3 week cycle - weighed myself this morning and I'm up 11 lbs since I started.

 

[UncalledFor]

Strangebrew,
What are you doing for PCT, and what sides did you get?

 

[raylewis]

Thanks for all the good info...

Are any of you guys running your novla at higher doses than 40mg based on the earlier thread?

 

[strangebrew]

Strangebrew,
What are you doing for PCT, and what sides did you get?

pct is gonna be 40 mgs of nolva for the first 2 weeks then 20 mgs for the last two.

I actually didn't really have any sides, except I started at 10 mgs, then went to 15, then 20. And at 20 I started getting bad headaches when I worked out. So I droped it down to 15 then back to 10 on my last week. No lethargy or back cramps though.

 

[UncalledFor]

When you went to 20 mg. Do you think the headaches could have been from not drinking enough water? I am just wondering what might have caused it. Maybe M1T justs reacted differently at high doses with you. I am just trying to research all the info possible to prevent as many sides as possible with me and maybe help others out as well. Thanks

 

[strangebrew]

When you went to 20 mg. Do you think the headaches could have been from not drinking enough water? I am just wondering what might have caused it. Maybe M1T justs reacted differently at high doses with you. I am just trying to research all the info possible to prevent as many sides as possible with me and maybe help others out as well. Thanks

I kinda doubt it, just because I drink a LOT of water. I always have water on me. I think 20 mg was simply too high for me. Next time I do it, I'll either run 10 mgs straight for 3 weeks or 15 mgs for 2 weeks and see how that goes. No point in going higher if I get good gains at a dose.

 

[Cuffs]

I actually didn't really have any sides, except I started at 10 mgs, then went to 15, then 20. And at 20 I started getting bad headaches when I worked out. So I droped it down to 15 then back to 10 on my last week.

More than likely from increased blood pressure. M1T is know for that side. I would suggest adding some Hawthorn Berry and make sure you monitor your BP while on cycle.

 

[UncalledFor]

Good point. The high blood pressure gives quite a few people nose bleeds as well.

 

[strangebrew]

More than likely from increased blood pressure. M1T is know for that side. I would suggest adding some Hawthorn Berry and make sure you monitor your BP while on cycle.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. I had my blood pressure checked during my last week (on 10 mgs a day) and it was 121/82 or 78 cant remember which.

 

[UncalledFor]

Do you know what your blood pressure was before you started the cycle?

 

[strangebrew]

Do you know what your blood pressure was before you started the cycle?

nope

 

[UncalledFor]

I don't know I was just curious.

 

[pu12en12g]

Logically... I would go with the lowest dosage possible starting @ 5mg or 10mg and run it 4-6 weeks with REAL PCT.