Kid had heart attack from steroids/Caffine
- 07-22-2010, 02:52 AM
- 07-22-2010, 02:55 AM
I think anything is possible my man... But without all the info who knows you know?
Depending on what he was taking and how much caffine i'm sure its very possible.
- 07-22-2010, 02:59 AM
ive taken oral and tons of caffiene at the same time.....i can guarantee he had and underlying heart condition
07-22-2010, 03:01 AM
07-22-2010, 03:29 AM
unless they give doseages it really depends on what was going on. No a TRT dose prob didnt cause a heart problem. However if the kid was running 2+grams of test 1+gram of tren and 150+mg of abombs, not making sure his BP was under control then yeah steroids could have definately aided problems with his coronary system.
07-22-2010, 12:14 PM
Thats what my wife and I came too- shes not very educated about steroids so she has some fear- after she has seen me on them tho she is starting to soften up- a little, but thats what I told here- its possible that steroids where the sole cause but HIGHLY unlikely- and yeah the kid was 20- we all know what will be blamed
07-22-2010, 12:31 PM
Fukkin' kids man.
07-22-2010, 12:37 PM
Wonder where his parents we're? But not it will be aas fault. Though im sure caffaine caused it
07-22-2010, 12:40 PM
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07-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Your wife "hearing" what sounds to me like a wild, grossly exaggerated rumor does not make it true. If a kid in your hometown died at 20, with steroids and caffeine proven to be the cause, it would undoubtedly have made the paper or the news, or both. So - can this story be confirmed as true?
If not forget about it, it's highly unlikely to be true.
07-22-2010, 01:13 PM
He didnt die- just got hospitalized- but I still think it would have been covered in the News even if he DIDNT die- that was my conclusion Dragon- rumor and over blown hype
07-22-2010, 01:18 PM
this is awful. We really need to ban caffeine
07-22-2010, 01:50 PM
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07-22-2010, 02:37 PM
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07-22-2010, 02:50 PM
dat dere cell-tech claims another victim.
07-22-2010, 05:08 PM
07-22-2010, 06:05 PM
Steroids are the "scape goat" in this story, it's like this:
"my johnny was addicted to steroids and worked out too hard while taking caffeine pills and had a heart attack."
In reality, johnny had an underlying condition that went undiagnosed, could this have been prevented? Yes, by monitoring BP and heart rate levels while on cycle, but a 20 year old kid thinks he is invincible. It's his own negligence, not a drug that killed him.
F his mom for blaming steroids.
07-22-2010, 06:19 PM
07-22-2010, 07:08 PM
muscletech is such a joke
07-22-2010, 08:49 PM
Seriously though if he was running something(likely a PH/DS) at a high dose, without knowing about cycle support his BP may have went through the roof, then he drinks energy drinks all day, and then drops a pre-workout stim racking up around 1g-2g of caffeine for the day?
Not hard to believe actually...
07-22-2010, 08:53 PM
07-22-2010, 09:03 PM
07-22-2010, 09:10 PM
A healthy heart can take alot, but a mans heart can also stop if its hit just right from a blow during a beat.
The paradox of man, Amazing bodies capable to endure and overcome, yet so fragile a minute difference in something or an event at the right time can bring death.
Oh and Shwellington, glad to hear you were delivered from that stuff. Not every one makes it out from under that shadow alive.
07-22-2010, 09:14 PM
07-23-2010, 12:14 AM
Edit: Also lots of blow.
07-23-2010, 12:28 AM
yeah dude- I used to pop like 6 hits of EX 5 days in a row- same thing with crank and booze/benzo's- IM lucky to be alive too
07-23-2010, 12:30 AM
10 grams is a lethal dose of caffiene.
thats alot of caffiene.
he had other underlying medical problems.
I've done it all, meth, coke, all kinds of energy sups, steroids, my hearts still going, and my bp is normal. (off cycle)
steroids and caffiene didn't kill him. his underlying medical conditions did.
07-23-2010, 12:54 AM
I admit, I have even hit up 5g of caffeine myself before...thanks to college.
You are most likely right about an underlying condition. But the human body is crazy.
I must say though, why has everyone here used every drug under the sun but me o.o
07-23-2010, 01:12 AM
dont join us! I wish I hadnt got hooked on that shiz
07-23-2010, 01:16 AM
Yeah, it's not fun to wake up with your heart pounding at 150+ bpm because you popped so many amphetamines before going to sleep after drinking a fifth of liquor.
07-23-2010, 01:37 AM
07-23-2010, 03:03 AM
The combination of things such as AAS useage (in an undefined amount) and caffine (also in an undefined amount) with a kid (realistically without context we dont know what his party habits or pre-exsisting medical condition is). Sometimes it doesnt take much to kill a person.
Yes a few of you had intense expeirences that pushed your bodies to the limit and i am glad you are with us and off of the drugs, that really is an accomplishment and you should be recognized for what you have accomplished by stopping those habits. However in the amounts and different things you mentioned realistically you guys are lucky, a lot of other people have died from less substance abuse than that. My brother is into drugs unforunately and we ritually bury at least one of his friends a year (starting at age 16). I am an EMT during school and summer and see people DOA on things that you guys mentioned. I AM NOT SAYING that what you guys said isnt true, i am sure you are telling the truth however you may be forgetting that you are the lucky ones who escaped with your life.
Finally i think its important that you guys really realize that AAS and all steroid useage really does carry side effects, yes they are over exaggerated i know you dont need to tell me im on a gram of test a week right now just writing this. But to simply dismiss steroids as a possible cause of injury doesnt treat these drugs with teh respect they deserve. If you do blasts or cycles or whatever it is you do, you better count on steroids ending your life prematurely.
I dont know how many of you know him but Big Greg Nesbit just passed away at age 38.
Just a reality check for those of you who think steroids arent that bad may be worse than you really are accounting for. This board particuarly seems to be naive about the long term effects particuarlly on the coronary and ciruclatory systems. And no i dont have any studies to prove that, and if you need a study for common sense i dont have one for that either.
07-23-2010, 12:13 PM
How did this turn into a drug thread? But none the less I use to do the yeyo for about 4 days straight and pop some E's on occassion and I have had a few scares where I thought I was going to die. Glad I'm not doing that anymore
07-23-2010, 12:15 PM
But funny thing the first time I tried no xplode I thought my heart was gonna pop!
07-23-2010, 12:34 PM
yeah it is a miracle that none of us blew our hearts up I agree
And It sucks about ur brother man- I have family members that r still goin balls to the wall with it- hit me up if u ever wanna talk bout it
And on a scientific note- I do give steroids respect- they r not a game
But one thing- there is no scientific evidence at all that steroids are as dangerous as people make them out to be- I do not think I will die if I do them properly and do not abuse them. I know men who are OLD who used to do juice- they r fine.....just sayin CHEERS
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