Injecting 4AD cypionate

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  1. Injecting 4AD cypionate


    http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/main.php?pageID=97

    I have heard good results from some using regular 4AD as an injectable. Now if you only had to do it a couple times a week it might be worth it.

    Anyone willing to give this a shot and give us their feedback when kilosports gets their new shipment of the cypionate in?


  2. i'd love to, but i have no need for 25g of the damn stuff... i only need 4g for a 8 week cycle!

    if two or three people wanted to split i'd be game

  3. Originally posted by Bean
    i'd love to, but i have no need for 25g of the damn stuff... i only need 4g for a 8 week cycle!

    if two or three people wanted to split i'd be game
     

    Why would you have to buy 25G?

    WYD

     
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  4. as far as 4-ad cyp goes they only have a selection for 25g or 50g...

    http://www.kilosports.com/productdes...nediol%20Ester

  5. Originally posted by Bean
    as far as 4-ad cyp goes they only have a selection for 25g or 50g...

    http://www.kilosports.com/productdes...nediol%20Ester
     

    Bro, you can get 4ad for a buck a gram at 1fast400.com....

    Peace

    WYD

     

  6. Originally posted by Bean
    as far as 4-ad cyp goes they only have a selection for 25g or 50g...

    http://www.kilosports.com/productdes...nediol%20Ester
    Thats not the 4-AD cypionate ester...thats the 4-AD ethylcarbonate ester...

    that ester is used for enhanced oral bioavailability and/or lymphatic system uptake for subsequent distribution to the muscles and whatnot.

     

    LG.
    Read This Book!!: Anabolic Steroids and the Athlete by William N. Taylor M.D.

  7. Sorry, my bad... I failed to recognize you were speaking of a different form ...

  8. Just buy it, convert it all to injectables and sell it to some ppl on here.
    Twitter: @pogue25

  9. hmm interesting...

    how long is the ester on ethylcarbonate ester?

  10. Originally posted by Bean
    hmm interesting...

    how long is the ester on ethylcarbonate ester?
    it is illeged to extend the half life to like either 12-14 hours or 18-20 hours I cant remember which one..I'll try and find a study/sales pitch

     

    LG.
    Read This Book!!: Anabolic Steroids and the Athlete by William N. Taylor M.D.

  11. Originally posted by Lifeguard


    Thats not the 4-AD cypionate ester...thats the 4-AD ethylcarbonate ester...

    that ester is used for enhanced oral bioavailability and/or lymphatic system uptake for subsequent distribution to the muscles and whatnot.

     

    LG.
    Yeah, the cypionate version should be up in like a week or so, but it will likely come in increments of no less than 20 grams as well.

  12. Originally posted by Lifeguard


    it is illeged to extend the half life to like either 12-14 hours or 18-20 hours I cant remember which one..I'll try and find a study/sales pitch

     

    LG.
    if it were 18-20 hours then injections could probably be done ED

  13. are there step-by-step instructions anywhere how to convert 4-ad cyp into an injectable?

    has anyone found pure enough 4-ad cyp?

    happy chinese new year.

    -5

  14. animal has a kit; but i'm thinking it doesn't require anything special... just a certain mixture; i'm thinking BDC knows what it is and is compiling the rest of the data for making the injectable

  15. 4-AD BASE:

    • 1% BA, 3% PG, 10% BB
    • Concetrations above 50 mg/mL will carmelize after returning to room temp.
    • Still working on a better preparation recipe.


    4-AD CYP:

    • 1% BA, 5-10% BB
    • This recipe should work great since the cyp ester is rather long.  Injects should be done at least once weekly and preferrably twice weekly.
    • Concentrations of 250-600 mg/mL should be possible due to the lipophilicity of the cyp modification.
    • Post cycle meds will have to be administered 2 weeks after last inject. 
    • As soon as Martin gets the powders in I will get a few hundred grams for experiments and better prices for the bros.


    Chemo

  16. booyah... the big man pulls through told you guys

  17. Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo
    4-AD BASE:

    • 1% BA, 3% PG, 10% BB
    • Concetrations above 50 mg/mL will carmelize after returning to room temp.
    • Still working on a better preparation recipe.



    Chemo
    Question for Chemo:

    What oil would you use for this preparation?

    I'm not going to do it, I'm just adding ammo to my arsenal so-to-speak.

    Thanks in advance

     

    LG.
    Read This Book!!: Anabolic Steroids and the Athlete by William N. Taylor M.D.

  18. probably peanut oil or cottonseed oil from his posts i've read before... sesame oil from what i've heard is too thick


    also... is PG propylene glycol?
    Last edited by Bean; 02-01-2003 at 04:15 PM.

  19. Originally posted by Bean
    probably peanut oil or cottonseed oil from his posts i've read before... sesame oil from what i've heard is too thick

    also... is PG propylene glycol?
    I use peanut oil to check solubilities and basic recipe development since it is cheap and widely available but for actual preps I always use cottonseed.

    PG = prop glycol

    Chemo 

  20. Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo


    I use peanut oil to check solubilities and basic recipe development since it is cheap and widely available but for actual preps I always use cottonseed.

    PG = prop glycol

    Chemo 
    Which 4AD product do you use?

    The powder you sell here BDC or the 4AD cyp people are talking about?

  21. he lists them seperately, 4ad base is without ester, 4-ad cyp or ester is with ester

  22. Originally posted by Bean
    he lists them seperately, 4ad base is without ester, 4-ad cyp or ester is with ester
    Where are they listed?

    I only find the 4AD.


    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/memberpricesheet.htm

  23. Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo
    4-AD BASE:

    • 1% BA, 3% PG, 10% BB
    • Concetrations above 50 mg/mL will carmelize after returning to room temp.
    • Still working on a better preparation recipe.


    4-AD CYP:

    • 1% BA, 5-10% BB
    • This recipe should work great since the cyp ester is rather long.  Injects should be done at least once weekly and preferrably twice weekly........
    this is where he lists on how to do them

    he only lists 4-ad base in the store... if you want 4-ad cyp; gotta go through kilosports ATM

  24. Originally posted by Bean


    this is where he lists on how to do them

    he only lists 4-ad base in the store... if you want 4-ad cyp; gotta go through kilosports ATM
    Yes I know where he says how he does them.

    That is why I asked him WHERE he gets his 4AD cyp.

    So back to my original queston.

    BDC where do you get your 4AD cyp does you use for your experiments?




  25. Originally posted by Workman


    Yes I know where he says how he does them.

    That is why I asked him WHERE he gets his 4AD cyp.

    So back to my original queston.

    BDC where do you get your 4AD cyp does you use for your experiments?



    oh my bad thought you said HOW
  26. 4-ad cypionate no longer available


    Not to rain on anybody's parade, but I recently heard back from Kilo sports regarding when they would be getting some more 4-ad cypionate or 19-nor cypionate and they said that they were out and had no plans to get any more in the future.

    Dear Ross,



    We sold out We won't be bringing anymore in.



    Sincerely,


    Martin McDermott
    KiloSports Inc.

    >============================= =======
    >KiloSports Contact: cypionates
    >------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >Contact Name: >Contact Email:
    >
    >Message: When are you planning to offer the 19-nor and the 4-ad cypionate?

  27. 4-AD CYP:

    • 1% BA, 5-10% BB
    • This recipe should work great since the cyp ester is rather long.  Injects should be done at least once weekly and preferrably twice weekly.
    • Concentrations of 250-600 mg/mL should be possible due to the lipophilicity of the cyp modification.
    • Post cycle meds will have to be administered 2 weeks after last inject. 


    Chemo [/B][/QUOTE]

    Hey guys, newbie question here. I haven't injected anything, but for my next ph/ps cycle I want to make the 4-ad cyp injectable.

    Could you tell me what BA and BB are? if 1% is BA, 5-10% is BB then what is the other 89-94%? where can i get this stuff? pin size? how to make the above mix? useful links?

    Thanks.

    -5

  28. BA is Benzyl alcohol, BB is Benzyl Benzoate

    the remaineder is oil... find out how many mg/ml you want in your mixture, and how many grams you will put in it; then mix it together with the above percentages

  29. thanks for the reply. just so i'm clear, i can dump all the stuff into a contair, shake and then inject? sounds almost too easy...

    -5

  30. Allow me to elaborate...mix, shake, sterilize, THEN inject.

    CHemo

  31. Chemo,
    Maybe you could write an article or something about this after you do all of your experiments. It would be really helpful.

  32. Originally posted by PLer
    Chemo,
    Maybe you could write an article or something about this after you do all of your experiments. It would be really helpful.
    Good idea, I'm definitely interested in this. Could help alot of guys from screwing up.

  33. Just a little warning. Animal used Kilosports 4AD cyp and got a bad case of the "flu". He believes it came from the low purity (93%).

    Has anyone else done the Kilosports 4AD cyp ?

  34. Well, has anyone tried injecting the kilosport 4AD Cyp yet?
  35. Talking


    Originally posted by pogue
    Just buy it, convert it all to injectables and sell it to some ppl on here.
    IM GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!1

    peacel.

  36. until they can give better than 93% purity, I am not shooting the stuff..lol!

  37. i talked w/ martin today and he said it's probably 93% pure. he said they couldn't lab test for exact results b/c there's no standard for it. however, he said it's easy to purify & suggested i look that up.

    so, anyone know how to purify this ****?

    -5
  38. 4-ad cypionate injectable - my experience


    1) It is 93% pure. The other impurities per BDC are probably testosterone and boldenone.

    2) I made 10 grams into a 40ml @250mg/ml injectable last monday. Since then I have done 3 injections of 2cc (500 mg). The injections are painless.

    3) Too early to tell as far as results (probably 2 weeks before I notice a really big difference).

    4) No side effects.
    Last edited by RVEXLER; 03-03-2003 at 06:08 PM.

  39. No really i am game.

    peace.

  40. Originally posted by Number 5
    i talked w/ martin today and he said it's probably 93% pure. he said they couldn't lab test for exact results b/c there's no standard for it. however, he said it's easy to purify & suggested i look that up.

    so, anyone know how to purify this ****?

    -5
    I received the lab assay report. They did test it and it was 93% 4-ad cypionate.
  

  
 

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