Gyno on 4th week of Hdrol! Please help!!
- 07-19-2010, 08:57 PM
Gyno on 4th week of Hdrol! Please help!!
Yesterday i took off my top and looked at my left nipple then BAMB! I have a lump undeer it (size of a pebble) and it is inflammed and puffy. Looks gross!
I am on my first PH/DS run and i am on 50/50/75/75/75/75. I am on my 4th week, how can this happen I thought Hdrol doesnt really aromitise!
I have never had any puberty gyno before ever and have never had any problems with gyno before. I am 26 and have a clean diet.
What do i do?? Do i stop the hdrol and start my nolva 20/20/10/10 or finish the cycle and then do nolva for a proper PCT. Or should i go see a doctor? I haveno side effects what so ever apart from this coming out of no where i am not sure how long it has been there and i am a bit shocked actually
My mate was saying i can run a 10mg nolva a day for one week just to get rid of the estrogen build up becoz thats all he can point it down too becoz on hdrol it is EXTREMLEY rare!
Has anyone expereinced this? I need HELP! im freaking out lol
- 07-19-2010, 09:16 PM
- 07-19-2010, 09:20 PM
It can happen with any hormonal product. Run you're nolva right away and start PCT. That's why it's always good to have an AI on hand in case of these emergencies. Get an AI while you're running nolva just incase. Letro or adex.
07-19-2010, 09:32 PM
NOOOOOOOOOO do not use an ai with hdrol! It will absolutley DESTROY estrogen and some estrogen is GOOD! Dose ur nolva at 10 mgs for about 3-4 days- u can stay on the drol just incorperate nolva- it should kill it off
07-19-2010, 09:36 PM
07-19-2010, 09:38 PM
07-19-2010, 09:38 PM
NO letro is not needed nor recomended Dose ur nolva at 10-20 mgs for 3-4 days
07-19-2010, 09:40 PM
and yes you do need estrogen just the right amounts of estrogen and nolva will help with regulating the estrogen- it wont kill it like letro will but it will keep it from causing gyno and will kill the gyno u have now
07-19-2010, 09:51 PM
07-19-2010, 09:53 PM
it can be used to get rid of gyno but not recomended on steroids like hdrol- hdrol does not aromatase but I dont know wtf ur getting gyno from- but if u have it u have it
Letro is usually used with armotasable steroids
Dude I am running m14add AND 1-ad stacked- both of which armotase and I will have nolva on hand to deal with it-
Find unrealmachine talk to him about ur situation b4 u do anything
but i can almost promise he will tell u to run nolvadex
07-19-2010, 10:05 PM
07-19-2010, 10:20 PM
anyone else can chip in some advice?
Anyone think this is extremley rare on hdrol?
07-19-2010, 10:24 PM
07-19-2010, 10:25 PM
Run nolva 20mg until gyno is reduced and gone.
Yes, you can stay on cycle.
But.. If the gyno doesnt shrink or disappear with a week of nolva use, discontinue halodrol and head into PCT. Bump nolva to 40 for a few days and then coast at 20. If your gyno doesnt budge, your SERM is bunk or you dont really have gyno.
07-19-2010, 10:37 PM
07-19-2010, 10:40 PM
By youve seen plenty of people you mean 1-2 with stories of others?
07-19-2010, 10:45 PM
07-19-2010, 10:46 PM
07-19-2010, 10:48 PM
07-19-2010, 10:54 PM
gyno is reversable! run ur nolva and dont trip bro, I understand a lumpy nipple is embaressing but its better then not bieng able to get ur dik up or have no semen
So run ur nolva discontinue use after gyno goes away and continue with ur cycle then do a proper pct
07-19-2010, 10:58 PM
07-19-2010, 11:05 PM
07-19-2010, 11:09 PM
07-19-2010, 11:17 PM
07-19-2010, 11:37 PM
if nolva doesn't cut it, then I'd toss the cycle and start PCT... you really should not need letro.
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07-19-2010, 11:49 PM
07-20-2010, 12:44 AM
07-20-2010, 04:09 AM
see wen u mean a lumpy nipple. do u meen actual bumps on the nipple or do u mean a a lump under the nipple like pebbles??
07-21-2010, 12:34 AM
I am on 20mg Nolva a day mid cycle.... Hopefully it dies down in 3 or 4 days or so. The more i read on other forums people are saying Nolva will NOT reverse Gyno or kill it....So i am worried but trying not to flip out lol
07-21-2010, 12:36 AM
Anyone else have any info on my case?
This thread could help out alot of people with gyno i think even though there are so many threads out there!
Any DS/PH or AAS can do it...people got to realise that
07-21-2010, 01:00 AM
ummm dude... there is a thread on here called the 16 ways to battle gynocomastia...
and i am not one of those guys who advocates primordial products left and right, but i can say i believe absolutely what he says in that article. i ran the tren ph for 4 months along with SD thrown in there and got no gyno whatsoever, because i was rubbing test gel on my balls.
anyway, if you read the article, (i actually did this before the article was written just bc it made sense to me bc i knew DHT was an anti-gyno), that is the number one best way to prevent/interfere with gyno. the second is androhard.... basically what im saying is it sounds like your DHT to estro ratios are all out of whack, and i think that is what you need to look at first.
in fact, i am positive this is the case, because its really the only explanation as hdrol doesn't aromatize. but it still might be shutting ur natural test down so you've got a lot less DHT, an environment in which gyno thrives. unless you've got test gel, I would go ahead and spend the 60 bucs and get androhard and get some DHT in you, quick.
btw, i have no gyno whatsoever, and have run numerous compounds at high doseages which cause it.
07-21-2010, 11:22 AM
07-21-2010, 07:53 PM
07-21-2010, 08:44 PM
The only thing i didnt expect so much is gyno but i new that is a possibility with any hormonal thing.
Update: My 3rd day on Nolva and wow my lump has gone down over 50% at least!! My nips are still puffy but that is expected and it is still a bit tender and sore, BUT the lump IS reducing quite considerably!
Amazing...the only side effect i am getting now is a sore throat since i started the nolva but meh who cares iit is working like a treat!
Thanks so much guys! I will keep you posted when and IF it goes away and hopefully the last two weeks of my cycle (next week) will be good!
The advice on this thread has been optimal!
07-21-2010, 08:48 PM
Just because you had no gyno from numerous compound at high dosages that is not showing much responsibilty for your body dude and it doesnt mean that i or someone else shld go do exactley that just
07-23-2010, 07:23 AM
Hey guys, Just an update
Gyno has pretty much completley gone!! On my third day of Nolva and thelump is so tiny there is nothing there!!
My nipple is still a little bit puffy and sore SO i can going to keep running 20mgs of Nolva along side hdrol until it is completeley better.
THANK you so much guys, fantastic advice
AND this is something to read if any of you guys get a scare
07-24-2010, 08:02 AM
Does anyone think i got gyno because of my dosing of hdrol?
Gyno kicked in mid week of 4th week on 75mgs
07-24-2010, 08:09 AM
sweet! grats man. So glad to see its gone for you.
Yeah I had burning nipple from M-drol and nolva got rid of it in 2 days. But a burning nipple porbly isnt even gyno, but I ****in paniced man cus I dont have health insurance.
Hey if his gyno didnt go away.....would Health Insurance cover it?
07-24-2010, 08:12 AM
07-24-2010, 08:23 AM
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