Good supp's for helping with sleep?
- 05-22-2004, 02:15 AM
Good supp's for helping with sleep?
I am 1 week into an M1T cycle and, ironically, not only has the m1t not given me lethargia at all, but it has actually given me quite a bit of nervous energy and I am having trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. Really bad night sweats as well. This is really out of the ordinary for me as I normally can fall asleep anytime, anywhere and sleep peacefully and deeply for 9-10 hrs. The best I can manage since starting the M1T is about 5 hours of restless sleep.
So basically, what are some good supp recommendations for helping with sleep? I believe B-12 and melatonin, correct? Anything else, and what doses of B-12 and melatonin should I use?
On a side note, I have gained ~8lbs and strength is up a bit... and the only sleeping 5hrs a night IS causing me to be more productive.... So far, M1T has treated me right.
- 05-22-2004, 02:52 AM
Well being an insomniac myself here are my preferences:
Best and Natural Way:
1)Sex, and lots of it.
Though you're on m1t, so I personally wouldn't do the nyquil because of the alchohol content.
- 05-22-2004, 03:43 AM
Try Celestial Seasonings Sleepy Time Extra tea. It contains valerian and chamomile.
05-22-2004, 07:29 AM
Magnesium by itself (no zinc, no calcium, no nothing), play with dosage to get correct for you, 1-2gms at bedtime, very relaxing and sleep inducing.
05-22-2004, 07:38 AM
05-22-2004, 10:40 AM
I second Magnesium! Makes me sleep great while "on." I get mine in ZMA, but the cheaper route would certainly be magnesium by itself.
05-22-2004, 11:41 AM
melatonin will make you a lot sleepier than just magnesium. I've tried both along with many others.
If neither helps, look into getting some ambien or seroquil but i doubt that would be necessary.
05-22-2004, 11:51 AM
Melatonin 1-3mg gets my vote. It also may help in blunting cortisol.
05-22-2004, 01:02 PM
Melatonin.......works the best....although this PHG I started taking is making me sleep very soundly.
05-22-2004, 01:06 PM
05-22-2004, 01:11 PM
Melatonin works very well for sleep. PM for a source that offers 100 3 mg tabs for $1.50 (ON brand).
05-22-2004, 05:18 PM
I've tried melatonin numerous times, played with dosage, I never got anything out of it. For some reason, hormonal manipulation of wake/sleep cycle doesn't do much for me, I'm a chronic insomniac. Magnesium works, although I'm sure there is better out there, it just seems to induce relaxation and take my mind off everything and I can fall asleep.Originally Posted by NPursuit
If melatonin works, go with it.
05-22-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by gobig1
Yea by saying it works really well for sleep I meant for myself. I recommended it to a few friends who also liked it. If you get it at the right places it doesnt set you back much.
Although I should mention I had some messed up dreams on melatonin. Really vivd. Could of been placebo for sure.
05-22-2004, 06:24 PM
increased dream activity is not just you, it happens to many who supplement with melatonin. I believe it comes with sleeping at a deeper state.
05-22-2004, 07:23 PM
Melatonin plus 10 grams taurine works like a charm for me. Either by themselves don't do much for helping me sleep, but combine the two and I'm out within an hour generally.
05-22-2004, 09:12 PM
ZMA.......not the ready made expensive formulas....buy the stuff seperately from GNC for like $10 for 3 months' worth.
05-22-2004, 09:47 PM
05-23-2004, 12:11 AM
05-23-2004, 03:42 PM
05-24-2004, 04:48 AM
Melatonin or a big ole fashion joint always worked well for me.
05-24-2004, 06:50 AM
trypt, stacked with melatonin, magnesium, and a glass of warm milk is sweet.
fwiw, trypt is legal to possess and easily obtainable at tack stores
05-24-2004, 10:40 AM
I use about 4mcgs of melatonin and sleep hard and dont feel drugged out the next day. I use it every night though, suffer from insomnia....
05-24-2004, 12:22 PM
I suffer from insomnia too, but it's not an every night thing fortunately.Originally Posted by Breezed_one
Ambien works well for me, but it's prescription only. Just make sure that you get 7.5 or more hours of sleep with it, otherwise you feel groggy for a hour or so after you wake up. But if you do get enough sleep with it, you wake up feeling refreshed and energetic.
I also tried Sonata at the advice of my doctor. The good thing about it is that it lasts a lot less longer in the body than Ambien, so if you get around 6 hours of sleep or more you wake up with no grogginess or anything.
I know these are both prescription drugs, but they are (supposed to be) non habit forming, so doctors usually don't mind writing a scrip for them. My insurance picked up both of them, so yours might too.
I'd never use them every night, but they are a good thing to have on hand for emergencies. I also use them to reset my sleep schedule; I bounce on Saturday nights, so I get home around 4:30 AM and usually sleep until 1 PM or so. Monday morning I have to be at work at 8:30 AM, so I like to get to bed around 11:30 on Sunday night. Problem is, that's less than 12 hours after I got up, so getting to sleep at that time is difficult. Pop an Ambien, and I'm good to go.
05-24-2004, 12:36 PM
I wonder what the long term effects of my melatonin habit might be. I have be taking them for about 5yrs. Always heard the script drugs made you sleepy the next day as well, so I always stayed away but might have to go see the doc and check out the Ambien.. Thanks
05-24-2004, 06:24 PM
05-24-2004, 07:08 PM
thats my favorite.... benadryl and 3mg melatoninOriginally Posted by bigmark1972
05-24-2004, 07:24 PM
yep, benadryl. takes like an hour and a half for it to kick in for me though, so plan ahead!
05-26-2004, 10:55 AM
Bud Heavy (not Bud-lite)...works wonders in the "proper" dosage. Along with White Castle sliders, it acts as an excellent laxative as well!
05-27-2004, 04:48 AM
melatonin... but it's not good to take every night.
percoset (when i had my knee injury)
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