To Sustain alpha users

[qwerty33]

Does it really help libido and general well being?

My friends swear by it and use it 1 mth on 1 mth off.

[suresha]

don't you work for PP, and you never tried their SA hhhmmmmmm? this has to be a plug

[andro]

works decent for keeping libido up....kinda messed with my heart rythm at night though.

[Mase64]

i can tell you when i start to take mine lol

[Jimbo15]

If he works for me that would be the first time I've heard about it.

[Jimbo15]

It does help libido. Personally, if I use SA and Phyto I can't function in society because of how pre-occupied my mind becomes with sex.

[BarbellBeast]

Does it really help libido and general well being?

My friends swear by it and use it 1 mth on 1 mth off.

It definitely helps with libido for me! I've been using it on cycle when I need a libido boost even. But my last PCT I used it for, my libido was up and running in about 2 days, and usually it takes a week or so.

[qwerty33]

It does help libido. Personally, if I use SA and Phyto I can't function in society because of how pre-occupied my mind becomes with sex.

lol this is exactly what i want with the new gf . I turned all natural a little while ago and only used torem and or clomi and a few other goodies for pct.

[qwerty33]

works decent for keeping libido up....kinda messed with my heart rythm at night though.

oral or trans? and what do you mean like higher heart rate?

thanks much this is the info i am looking for

[MMAnabolics]

I have used both oral and trans, I would recommend it for augmenting/replacing clom/nolv depending on what compounds you use. I usually run clom alongside for 3wks as well as PPs TCF-1 for 6 days prior and first six of pct (12 straight days). This trifecta (clom SA TCF) has worked well for me. to sum up, I try to use SERMs as sparingly as possible, SA helps.

[andro]

oral or trans? and what do you mean like higher heart rate?

thanks much this is the info i am looking for

i used the liqua-vade. at night when i went to bed i could feel my heart beat change rythmn...like it would skip a beat. granted, i was taking m-drol with it, could have been the combo of the two. m-drol solo, doesnt mess with my heart. everyones different tho.

[qwerty33]

i used the liqua-vade. at night when i went to bed i could feel my heart beat change rythmn...like it would skip a beat. granted, i was taking m-drol with it, could have been the combo of the two. m-drol solo, doesnt mess with my heart. everyones different tho.

yea weird i took methadrol (SD) clone and it did the same but i was not on sustian.

[Kristofer68SS]

i like the dermals by PP the bestest.

[matthew76]

I've used both, with the SA-LV being my favorite. Don’t get me wrong, they are equally effective; although, I prefer the LV because there is NO dry time, and I do not have to worry about transfer of any kind. I started utilizing SA-LV in conjunction with TRT and I feel like a new person. I felt great before hand (who wouldn't with exogenous-test being administered), but libido/mood/recovery really kicked up when I added SA-LV. My Endo now recommends it to several patients for use. My father in-law is using SA-LV and TCF-1 with outstanding results. Because of reasons that I will not list, he cannot use any form of HRT/TRT; on the other hand, he can use natural supplementation. His numbers are now in the mid-to-high normal range for his age (74).

[qwerty33]

I've used both, with the SA-LV being my favorite. Don’t get me wrong, they are equally effective; although, I prefer the LV because there is NO dry time, and I do not have to worry about transfer of any kind. I started utilizing SA-LV in conjunction with TRT and I feel like a new person. I felt great before hand (who wouldn't with exogenous-test being administered), but libido/mood/recovery really kicked up when I added SA-LV. My Endo now recommends it to several patients for use. My father in-law is using SA-LV and TCF-1 with outstanding results. Because of reasons that I will not list, he cannot use any form of HRT/TRT; on the other hand, he can use natural supplementation. His numbers are now in the mid-to-high normal range for his age (74).

wow great info thanks much. Has he had blood work from the tcf-1? how does he dose both the sustain and tcf? does he cycle them? That sounds like a great test boost stack, may add in bioforge to that mix one day

[matthew76]

wow great info thanks much. Has he had blood work from the tcf-1? how does he dose both the sustain and tcf? does he cycle them? That sounds like a great test boost stack, may add in bioforge to that mix one day

Yes, but I do not have access to his panels at the moment. I will try to obtain a copy.

He uses the recommended dosage for each product.
SA-LV: 1 serving upon waking and the second serving coming 12 hours later. Basically 0530 then 1730.
TCF-1: Upon waking. He tried to dose in the evening; however, it does spark him in the excitability department, so he opted for the morning routine. As far as cycling goes: Before we purchased him the TCF-1, he used DAA-Pure for around 3 months. He runs it for 20 days, and then he takes 12 days off. He played around with dosage time and days on/off before the end result.

I will add that he also takes MST's ZMK before bed; no other supplements used.

[qwerty33]

nice deff let me know if you find out the blood work. Also any concern with raised prolactin from the raise in total test from the tcf-1? I was reading that some take l-dopa but am curious. Also is this something the doc recommended or was created by you?

Yes, but I do not have access to his panels at the moment. I will try to obtain a copy.

He uses the recommended dosage for each product.
SA-LV: 1 serving upon waking and the second serving coming 12 hours later. Basically 0530 then 1730.
TCF-1: Upon waking. He tried to dose in the evening; however, it does spark him in the excitability department, so he opted for the morning routine. As far as cycling goes: Before we purchased him the TCF-1, he used DAA-Pure for around 3 months. He runs it for 20 days, and then he takes 12 days off. He played around with dosage time and days on/off before the end result.

I will add that he also takes MST's ZMK before bed; no other supplements used.

[matthew76]

I gathered the research and presented it to his doctor. He then did his own research and decided to try it out.

He has had no adverse reactions, or high PRL/estrogen. His LH is up, but in a healthy range (not maxed out).

[jbryand101b]

I'd like to try the transderman version to see how it compares to the l.v.

they should change the flavor to grape though.

[qwerty33]

I'd like to try the transderman version to see how it compares to the l.v.

they should change the flavor to grape though.

not a bad idea