Cutting Stack Advice?

[GSMachinist]

Height: 6'0''
Weight: 220 lb.
BF%: %20

Yeah im planning on running a H-Drol cycle like this for a cutting cycle
H-Drol: 75/75/75/100/100

Supporting Supp.:
Cycle Assist
ON %100 Whey Protien
Animal Pak

PCT:
Nolva

Well i wanted to ask if doing a BRIDGE starting with superdrol like this
SD: 10/20/20
H-Drol: 0/0/75/75/75/100/100

What do u think or should i STACK H-Drol with something else?? What and how much for how long?

 

[nosnmiveins]

at 20%bf u need to focus on diet, not steroids. personally id get down to 12%bf before running ANY steroid......but ur gonna do what u want...

 

[GSMachinist]

Ok so u think a ECA stack would be my best bet then huh..

 

[UnrealMachine]

uhm i was going to be nice and not say anything but nos is right 6' 220 and 20% you really don't need a cycle in order to cut.

 

[nosnmiveins]

Ok so u think a ECA stack would be my best bet then huh..

yes, but it wont do anything unless ur diet and cardio are on point

 

[GSMachinist]

Yeah I fully understand I was at 260 at the start of january and ive gone down to 220 by this month so yeah my diet is on point and cardio too i do HIIT 6 days out of the week.. So yeah i think im going to just do the ECA stack.. Unless somebody has a better suggestion lol.

 

[nosnmiveins]

Yeah I fully understand I was at 260 at the start of january and ive gone down to 220 by this month so yeah my diet is on point and cardio too i do HIIT 6 days out of the week.. So yeah i think im going to just do the ECA stack.. Unless somebody has a better suggestion lol.

congrats man! believe it or not that is a HUGE accomplishment. ECA stack sounds good for u then. keep doing what ur doing and get that bf% down

 

[GSMachinist]

Thanks bro thanks a lot.. So yeah ill do my research then on a ECA stack.. stay away form pro hormones till i hit 12-14% ..

 

[HumpTheCook]

unless...
you wanted to run a low dose of test along with the stims to help your body keep its muscle while you cut hard.

i know my fear of losing muscle while dieting is almost debilitating.

just sayin...

 

[GSMachinist]

How low of a test dosing??

 

[nosnmiveins]

i know my fear of losing muscle while dieting is almost debilitating.

just sayin...

dont even get me started. i have 20mcg T3/100mcg T4 tabs sitting here staring at me but i dont want to lose an ounce of muscle or strength

 

[GSMachinist]

Yeah i have that fear too lol.. so ust run a test booster through the ECA stack.. Ohh and can somebody point me to a good ECA read on dosing and such.

 

[HumpTheCook]

How low of a test dosing??

like a shot of e or cyp every 5th day.

dont even get me started. i have 20mcg T3/100mcg T4 tabs sitting here staring at me but i dont want to lose an ounce of muscle or strength

lol yup sounds like me. i dont cut without some anabolic help... and by some i mean alot ha.

 

[GSMachinist]

Damn bro its hard to find injectables here haven't heard of a place that sales them here. Any oral alternatives or can u point me in the right direction for the injectables.

 

[HumpTheCook]

Damn bro its hard to find injectables here haven't heard of a place that sales them here. Any oral alternatives or can u point me in the right direction for the injectables.

cant really help ya out there bro but research and you'll find your answers.

 

[GSMachinist]

Lol worth a try..

 

[schwellington]

I find oral alternative exist....obviously wont be as effective as injects.....11 oxo is a great oral compound for cutting......at least in my exp....In the last 17 days I swear I have dropped 1-2% bf from this stack and I havent even measured!

 

[GSMachinist]

Ok seeing that injectables are hard to come by in this part of town how bout i run the ECA stack along side the H-Drol cycle just so i wont loose that much amount of muscle by just doing the ECA by itself or will it contradict itself? Comments, concerns or thoughts anyone?
Oh and the ECA stack would be run for 6 weeks just like the H-Drol cycle.

 

[schwellington]

dont know much about ECA I know about ephedrine in and of itself.....but not how it interacts and if 6 weeks is good or not etc etc


BUT I do know hdrol would be good for perserving muscle

 

[kingalex1]

I'd still hold off on the h-drol.
Run the ECA for 4 weeks then 2 weeks off then 4 weeks again and see where you are then think about h-drol.
When I did my first cycle of h-drol I had wished I lost more bf before hand so I would have leaned out more and I was at around 13%.

Just stick to good diet and cardio with ECA for bit and see where you are.

 

[GSMachinist]

Damn so it wouldn't be a good idea to perserve muscle on such a hardcore cut.

 

[UnrealMachine]

see if you were 12% bodyfat or less and cutting then it would be tough to preserve muscle. You are at 20% bodyfat, it'll be easy to lose, you don't need to cycle to cut from 20%.

 

[GSMachinist]

Thanks for the help bro

 

[gymrat827]

for cutting= D Plex & 11 sterone.

I would also get something like I force Nutrition TT-33 & Green Tea with 50% ECGC.

 

[GSMachinist]

Damn bros the EC stack is treating me good on my 7th week lost 25lb. and at 14%bf.. Hows that lol now at 196ish

 

[youngandfree]

Awesome Pro!

 

[Jasen]

at 20% ur cardio system might not be able to handle ECA one example, chances r ur bp is already high, try to get to 16% then use ECA, good luck dropping FAT is hard i use cla 8g a day it works well with 2-4g carnitine

CANT BEAT NUTRA ON CLA!!!!

 

[Jasen]

ohhh im late....... wooow im impressed! wooooooow NICE JOB THINK ABOUT CORTISOL BLOCKER AND TRIAZOLE! it will get u to 11% then use anavar and winnie

 

[GSMachinist]

Lol bro its so hard eating only 2400 cals a day lol but when the ephedra kicks in i dont feel hungry lol

 

[Jasen]

BRO i know its sooooooo hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try ezikel bread at trade joes! miracle bread low carbs high fiber high protein and very DENSE LOW GLY CARBS! never diet without it

i went to 1600 cals dropped 40lbs in 2 months

 

[GSMachinist]

damn i ust gooled that bread it looks ****en good looks like that bread they give at outback steak house

 

[Aldross]

Damn bros the EC stack is treating me good on my 7th week lost 25lb. and at 14%bf.. Hows that lol now at 196ish

Very nice my man. Do you even recognize yourself anymore.

 

[Jasen]

yuppp! its good stuff bro it will keep u REAL FULL!

 

[Jasen]

6% in 7 weeks is soooo impressive!

 

[GSMachinist]

Hell na bro last May 2009 i weighed 275lb can u believe that. Now 196ish can finally see abs lol.

 

[Jasen]

man 7% left then ur rocky! kepp going

 

[GSMachinist]

yuppp! its good stuff bro it will keep u REAL FULL!

Yeah ima go look for it at the store.. how many calories per slice???

 

[GSMachinist]

Ill post pics laters..

 

[Jasen]

110 cals- 90 cals depends which kinda u get, get the orange bag/ original (i belive) its the one with 16g carbs/5 fiber per slice thats like 10G carbs per slice!

 

[GSMachinist]

Before: Around April 2009 at 275lbs.

At the beach damn!!

After: Around June 2010 around 215lbs.

Im the one with the vest

And one more at the beach lol

 

[GSMachinist]

Pics up bros...Still way more to go lol

 

[Jasen]

Dam huge diffffff!

 

[Aldross]

Just got back from work and had to look at these pics.
Truly awesome bro. Keep it up, you really are like a new man.

 

[GSMachinist]

Thanks for the motivation bros.. Yeah way more to go though lol

 

[GSMachinist]

2 more weeks left at 193lb on the dot lol!! Will update when i finish with final pics of my cut added green tea extract at 1500mg a day hoping for that BF% to drop lol

 

[Jasen]

dude no F around everytime i look through ur pics im impressed u really busted ur ass!

 

[Jasen]

THIS IS BODYBUILDING ^= its not the time it takes but the effort one puts in

 

[TeamT10]

yes, but it wont do anything unless ur diet and cardio are on point

made this mistake awhile ago, at that BF% anything you do is going to help, do the stacks later when all is said and done and your in a comfortable position with the body composition IMO

 

[GSMachinist]

Thank you bros yeah im so ****ing ready i have a little 4 pack going on lol... ****ing skin is the one that pisses me off lol but thanks bros for the motivation to keep going

 

[gymrat827]

I think your ready to start the h drol. If you really want to lean out stack it with 11 sterone. It's a great mild PH