M1T at low dose two week cycle

  1. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    Talking M1T at low dose two week cycle


    Im starting a M1T cycle at 2mgs/day and slowly uppin the dosage to see how the side effects are. I am also taking 1,4andro & 4AD. I will keep you guys updated.

  2. New Member
    Cogar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    387
    Rep Power
    330
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    13.55%

    Good luck. Incidentally, based on my experience and what I have read, it takes a week or two for the side effects of a given dosage to manifest. That is, a person taking a dosage may have no side effects for a couple weeks, and then suddenly develop side effects. This may be related to the long time methyls stay in the body.
  3. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    couple of weeks?


    How is that possible...all I read is how most people couldnt even surpass the second week due to the bad lethargy and headaches while on it. ? who knows but I just figure im i only have 3 weeks of this cycle left so I'll do two weeks of M1T with it and then go off M1 and stay on the 1,4AD cycle. My hopes are to not lose much muscle as I most likely would if I went straight to PCT after M1. I think by letting it stay in the body a bit before jumping to PCT will help because I think it kills alot when you jump back and forth so fast....body cant regulate well.
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    Cogar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    387
    Rep Power
    330
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    13.55%

    Quote Originally Posted by Warhead_321
    How is that possible...all I read is how most people couldnt even surpass the second week due to the bad lethargy and headaches while on it. ?
    My point exactly. Someone can see gains and think all is well and then suddenly develop sides after 10-14 days. This indicates that the dose was too high all along. They would not have known this after a few days, though. Therefore, taking something for a few days will not reveal enough to disclose what dosage you should be using.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warhead_321
    who knows but I just figure im i only have 3 weeks of this cycle left so I'll do two weeks of M1T with it and then go off M1 and stay on the 1,4AD cycle. My hopes are to not lose much muscle as I most likely would if I went straight to PCT after M1. I think by letting it stay in the body a bit before jumping to PCT will help because I think it kills alot when you jump back and forth so fast....body cant regulate well.
    Discontinuing M 1-T before the end of the cycle and running the rest of the stack a little longer makes sense. We have discussed this idea in other threads.
  5. Senior Member
    NPursuit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    37
    Posts
    1,782
    Rep Power
    1034
    Level
    32
    Lv. Percent
    85.37%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Being cautious is a good idea, and I commend you on that, but I would start the dose @ 5mg and assess the situation.
  6. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    [QUOTE=Cogar]My point exactly. Someone can see gains and think all is well and then suddenly develop sides after 10-14 days. This indicates that the dose was too high all along. They would not have known this after a few days, though. Therefore, taking something for a few days will not reveal enough to disclose what dosage you should be using.

    Well I only have seen I believe one post about starting at a low dose but then the person for some reason ups the dose dramatically. Im just going to start real low and increase to 5mgs and then stop after the two weeks. I really am not looking for a 25lbs increase in weight...really just want to look a bit more buff to get chicks this summer
  7. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    Quote Originally Posted by NPursuit
    Being cautious is a good idea, and I commend you on that, but I would start the dose @ 5mg and assess the situation.
    Well I am already on a high dose of 1,4AD and this really is my very first cycle but I will have no problem starting at a little higher dose on my next Thanks guys for your input and I'll keep you posted.
  8. New Member
    Technics's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    28
    Posts
    107
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    54.94%

    start at 5mg atleast
  9. Registered User
    CDB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    38
    Posts
    4,543
    Rep Power
    2676
    Level
    47
    Lv. Percent
    20.36%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    I did a search and couldn't find anything on this, does anyone know the halflife of M1T and the other oral methyls? Given that they're orals my guess is they'd have a short halflife, but I'd want to be sure. It'd have an effect on how PCT is handled at the very least.
  10. New Member
    Cogar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    387
    Rep Power
    330
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    13.55%

    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    I did a search and couldn't find anything on this, does anyone know the halflife of M1T and the other oral methyls? Given that they're orals my guess is they'd have a short halflife, but I'd want to be sure. It'd have an effect on how PCT is handled at the very least.
    This has been discussed and no one knows for sure. Being a methyl, it is not that short. The most commonly proposed half-life is 8-12 hours.
  11. New Member
    quasar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Age
    38
    Posts
    81
    Rep Power
    182
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    25.87%

    I still had bad lower back cramps (and increased strength) for 3 days after my 4 week 5mg/ED m1t/4ad cycle, so I think the half life may be longer.
  12. Ruthless.
    scipio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Age
    31
    Posts
    72
    Rep Power
    176
    Level
    7
    Lv. Percent
    88.49%

    This is m second cycle of m1t. My first one I ran at 10 mg/day with 4ad for 3 weeks and definitely had the lethargy and lower back pain. This time I'm running m1t @ 5 mg, no 4ad. I'm on my second week and haven't felt any sides yet...hopefully it stays like this. I'm also up 5 pounds, and haven't increased cals at all. I love m1t when the lethargy and back pain isn't kicking my ass.
    Last edited by scipio; 05-18-2004 at 12:35 PM. Reason: can't spell
  13. Banned
    Brodus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Age
    38
    Posts
    765
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    23
    Lv. Percent
    46.37%

    I've been off M1T (2 weeks, 5mg ED) for four days and still got bad back cramps while running yesterday, and still have the lethargy.
  14. New Member
    Skark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    325
    Rep Power
    300
    Level
    15
    Lv. Percent
    21.45%

    I love the idea of starting low. I know when I do a cycle of MD or M4OHN I plan on frontloading 1mg of M1T, just to "wetten" things up a bit, and get some anabolic action before the other kicks in.
  15. Elite Member
    bioman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Age
    42
    Posts
    7,711
    Rep Power
    513543
    Level
    59
    Lv. Percent
    88.88%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    I think its a great idea. Keep us posted if you decide to experiment with this. I totally agree that the sides might be from dosing too high. I think we've seen plenty of examples of "recomended doses" leading us astray. Can't hurt to try.
  16. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    Talking Damn skippy!


    Well guys I am on my 4th day of M1T on a 2.5mg (half pill) dose and im feeling great! My pumps are hard as hell, looking more solid, strength has increased, no back cramps or lethargy! The only side effects I found are an increase in aggression and headaches but those are on the low side. As I stated at top of thread I am also on 1,4AD and I believe the gains I am getting I will not lose due to the fact that im staying on such a low dose. I will also not up the dose at all because I wont risk any other side effects and/or the M1T flu. I am also stopping the M1T cycle after 2 weeks and continuing the 1,4AD for a week or two after and then PCT with Nolva 40-30-20-10 and by this I hope to keep most of my gains due to the fact that im not shocking my system by jumping right to PCT and confusing the body I tell ya, feeling like this I could workout ALL day if I didnt have to work lol. I'll keep you guys posted on how the progress is going.
  17. New Member
    donk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    180
    Rep Power
    231
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    0.29%

    I took 15mg ed of M1T for 20 days. The only side I had was Horrible back cramps which started at day 3 and got a little worse each day. I started to drink alot of water take potasium and stretch stretch stretch my lower back hamstrings and calves and it held tremendiously and made the pain tolarable.
  18. Advanced Member
    julius kelp's Avatar
    Stats
    6'4"  208 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    762
    Rep Power
    521
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    53.48%

    i'm gonna try something slightly similar. 10mgs/day m1t for twoo weeks. also doing transdermals of 1t & 4ad that i will carry out for four weeks to try to hold on to gains. i'm feeling the lethargy on day one.
  19. New Member
    Warhead_321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    84
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    90.94%

    Talking


    Quote Originally Posted by julius kelp
    i'm gonna try something slightly similar. 10mgs/day m1t for twoo weeks. also doing transdermals of 1t & 4ad that i will carry out for four weeks to try to hold on to gains. i'm feeling the lethargy on day one.
    But see bro, im getting similar gains with my dose compared to your 10mg dose but im just doing it for a period of a little more time and I have NO lethargy at all & I work midnights
  20. Advanced Member
    julius kelp's Avatar
    Stats
    6'4"  208 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    762
    Rep Power
    521
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    53.48%

    well, that may be true. if there's something that i've noticed especially with m1t is all the very different individual responses to the stuff. i would probably be trying just 5mg/day also, but i have 10mg capsules & wanted to see if taking them once a day (am) was any different than the first time when i took 1/2 a 10mg tablet am then the other half in the pm. thanks for the note & good luck with your experiments.
  21. CONTROLLED LABS CONSULTANT
    pu12en12g's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Age
    36
    Posts
    1,119
    Rep Power
    884
    Level
    25
    Lv. Percent
    82.8%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Logically... @ that dosage I would do a 3 or 4 week cycle, as long as you see gains by week #2
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 23
    Last Post: 01-06-2009, 11:03 AM
  2. Curious as to why people start Havoc at low doses
    By maurice02 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-04-2009, 01:35 PM
  3. Havoc at low dose
    By MAJIKMAN in forum Supplements
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-04-2008, 11:19 AM
  4. How long after a two week cycle?
    By Marshall Law in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 08-26-2005, 12:18 PM
  5. PCT for 2 week low dose 1-AD cycle?
    By fairplay101 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-16-2005, 01:55 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in