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where did all the ph go?

fmfws185

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how com alot of the online retail stores are out of stock?
specially epistane cant find it anywhere wtf.
can anybody give me a list of online supp stores that deliver in the U.S
thanks
or pm me the list
much appreciated
 
government is putting a lot of pressure on distributors and manufacturers, not to mention quite a few of the PHs have been banned.
 
Your best bet would be Primordial at this point:

Androhard - (Androsterone) Converts to DHT
Turinabol - (Hdrol Clone) Great Recomp Effects
Formestane - Steroidal AI
1-T - (1-androsterone and DHEA)
Dermacrine - DHEA & Pregnenolone, with Resveratrol & 7,8-Benzoflavone
 
HereToStudy said:
Your best bet would be Primordial at this point:

Androhard - (Androsterone) Converts to DHT
Turinabol - (Hdrol Clone) Great Recomp Effects
Formestane - Steroidal AI
1-T - (1-androsterone and DHEA)
Dermacrine - DHEA & Pregnenolone, with Resveratrol & 7,8-Benzoflavone
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the androhard is that the real andro like pre ban?
same with the 1-T?
 
fmfws185 said:
the androhard is that the real andro like pre ban?
same with the 1-T?
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Are you thinking of Androstenedione (4-androstene-3,17-dione)?

Andro hard is Androsterone (5a-androstan-3b-ol-17-one).

The 1-T is has 1-Androstene-3b-ol, which converts to 1-androstenediol, which in turn converts to Test.

The science articles on both are great:

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HereToStudy said:
Are you thinking of Androstenedione (4-androstene-3,17-dione)?

Andro hard is Androsterone (5a-androstan-3b-ol-17-one).

The 1-T is has 1-Androstene-3b-ol, which converts to 1-androstenediol, which in turn converts to Test.

The science articles on both are great:

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lol ya thats what i meant

im reading them as we speak.
i know the topical or transdermal has an absortion rate of i think its like 40%
but what about the oral route i know pill have a low absorbtion rate but oral liquid. is that the same route pretty much as a nasal or something like that? i know the nasal has somethingk like 90% i think if i remember correctly but it spikes blood levels for 3 hrs.
i guess what im trying to say is what is better in your opinion
lv or topical?



****EDIT: holy crap i just reread what i put hahaha that sounds like a bunch of rambling haha my bad bro it sounded better in my head lol
 
fmfws185 said:
****EDIT: holy crap i just reread what i put hahaha that sounds like a bunch of rambling haha my bad bro it sounded better in my head lol
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LOL.

The oral liquid is in a formula called Liqua-Vade which is specifically formulated to increase the bioavailability of a substance. It is good stuff. I don't know to much about transdermals, but...

Eric, the owner of Primordial, released an article on Transdermals:

I have not read it yet, but his articles are usually a very worthy read.
 
HereToStudy said:
Are you thinking of Androstenedione (4-androstene-3,17-dione)?

Andro hard is Androsterone (5a-androstan-3b-ol-17-one).

The 1-T is has 1-Androstene-3b-ol, which converts to 1-androstenediol, which in turn converts to Test.

The science articles on both are great:

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That converts to 1-test , if it was 4-ad it would convert to test. Although the DHEA in 1-t has some conversion to test, and 7-oxo/beta-dhea
 
Look harder.




But yeah, primordial has a lot of that on lock. Not huge gain compounds but from what I have read very effective.
 
sanchezgreg18 said:
That converts to 1-test , if it was 4-ad it would convert to test. Although the DHEA in 1-t has some conversion to test, and 7-oxo/beta-dhea
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Damnit, I knew that, thanks for the correction.

deadaim said:
Your best bet is NOT primordial, unless your getting their turinabol-lv, great product.
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Care to share a company that has been more competent as of late in the PH realm?
 
CEL products are still in stock some places and thats who i would trust over anyone. Also Transform Supplements made by custom capsule has reputable products out and they also have some in stock to make your own products on their site.


And Im logging a new company's clones right now called galaxy supplements. They arent Ideal since one stack is SD/Cyno but its legit as hell and it feels way better than SD alone
 
sanchezgreg18 said:
CEL products are still in stock some places and thats who i would trust over anyone. Also Transform Supplements made by custom capsule has reputable products out and they also have some in stock to make your own products on their site.


And Im logging a new company's clones right now called galaxy supplements. They arent Ideal since one stack is SD/Cyno but its legit as hell and it feels way better than SD alone
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I thought that CEL was no longer actively producing PHs, that it was more of a whats selling is what is still available. If not, the more the merrier, I just didn't know.
 
dude you can go to your local supplement store and get tons of them (NOT GNC). not hard to find them at all...
 
HereToStudy said:
I thought that CEL was no longer actively producing PHs, that it was more of a whats selling is what is still available. If not, the more the merrier, I just didn't know.
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In America CEL is getting harder to find...

But on UK sites I have found large supplies of

Havoc
All of CEL products
M1T(legit)
Some Unique PH's AMerica have not had(I think Tren Bomb was unique but crazy as hell, similar to M1T)
Cynostane
Tren, they love tren.
A couple other brans of PH that were always UK, not US so were unaffected.

And UK PH sites have noticed all of us yankees looking, so some actually have put supplies over here and some PH have options (US residents only!) for quicker shipping. I seen Havoc set up like that, made me giddy. I Always wanted Havoc(epi).

I think Europe will the be PH mongrals savior.


mball52 said:
dude you can go to your local supplement store and get tons of them (NOT GNC). not hard to find them at all...
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This is true as well, local supp shops still have Spawn, and other crap. Prices may be a lil uppity, but the guys are usually like us. And they stocked the hell out of the PH before the last ban, and only keep a few bottles local(in shop) at a time. No one ever regulates or checks local supplement stores. So they can literally still have tren out there still...some do
 
Gotta love Obama. Anyway, yes you can go to smaller supplement stores (i.e.: NOT VitaminShoppe or GNC) and find something here and there. You have have to shop around a bit for the product you're looking for but it's there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but U.S. law prohibits a persons with the possession of prohormone products unless cleared for medical reasons. The buying and selling of these products is still not illegal. That's why their harder to find - places like GNC won't sell em anymore because having them on the shelf now looks bad to the average schmuck who walks in looking for acai berry.
 
here's where they all went

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Organic, pointing any complaint at obama over this issue is pretty worthless, its not a partisan thing, even mccain leads the demand to have all supplements forced through fda sanctions and/or banned.
 
Prohormones are still bieng produced- you just gotta look for em!
 
schwellington said:
Prohormones are still bieng produced- you just gotta look for em!
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I agree with this guy. But that's y I asked where did they all go lol I know there still being produce and there are a lot of site that sell them but a lot are out of stock. And others I'm not sure if there legit sites
So......there lies the problem my good fellow
 
cool thanx man.
hey i wanted to ask since this thread is pretty much over but have you or anybody else had any expirience with hemadrol made by est?
 
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