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    Thumbs up First time cycle


    A guys later down the road was thinking on doing this stack!

    1-AD 400mg per day 200mg twice a day for 4weeks
    4-ad 600mg per day 300mg twice a dayfor 4weeks

    pct 6oxo 600mgs for 10 days then 300mg for 20 days


    What do u guys think about ergo pharm supps?ALL input is wanted!!

    THIS will be my first stack every just want to get it right so i dont waste the$$$$$.

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    I did the same cycle for my 1st cycle. Went up 90lbs on Squat Rep. Amazing Stuff.
    I did this however
    400mg 1-ad split 3ways (100mg, 100mg, 200mg)
    600mg 4-ad split 3ways (200mg, 200mg, 200mg)
    It probably doesn't matter though.
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    Sounds good. Don't forget to post your results.
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    what brands u guys think are top of the line for 1-ad and 4-ad.

    Was think about useing all ergopharm stuff but want the guys who used these ph 1-d 4-ad input on it
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    Thats a great 1st cycle, but why not save a bunch of cash & just use 1-test over 1ad? 1ad is outrageously expensive & just converts to 1-test anyway, which is much cheaper. Get a 1test/4ad transdermal & you're set.
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    You can also save like 30 bucks by using nolva instead for pct instead of the 6oxo.
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    so go with nolva 40mcg for to weeks then 20mcg for 2weeks ? thought on nutrex 1-tu
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    I think is is mgs, but yeah. Never tried 1-tu so i have no idea. I actually have no idea on how good 1-test is orally, I have only heard people say to either use it trans or by inject. Best of luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastynoodles
    what brands u guys think are top of the line for 1-ad and 4-ad.

    Was think about useing all ergopharm stuff but want the guys who used these ph 1-d 4-ad input on it

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    Ergopharm is a quality brand, and that is a good first cycle. Personally, I would do a 1-test transdermal over 1AD. One reason is for the difference in price, the other because 1AD converts to 1-test. These are also reasons Longdog expressed. 6OXO is fine for this cycle, however, Nolva is much cheaper but can carry legal risks.

    Best of luck on whatever you decide.
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    Which 1-test transdermel do u guys use ?AND thought on this S1+ as both 1-test a 4-ad in it 1-test as 100mg and the 4-ad as 150mg in it per 5 pumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastynoodles
    Which 1-test transdermel do u guys use ?AND thought on this S1+ as both 1-test a 4-ad in it 1-test as 100mg and the 4-ad as 150mg in it per 5 pumps
    Just about everyone here uses and favors BDC Nutrition's T-Gel formula, but you are going to have to find someone willing to sell it, because it is not available at this time but you can't go wrong with S1+. It's a good product and should yield nice results.
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    IF i go with the sp1+ should i use 5 or 10 pump twice a day??

    5 pumps x 2 times a day is 200mg 1-test and 300 mg 4-ad
    10 pumpsx 2 times a day is400mg 1-test and 600mg 4-ad

    Which is a better for a a 4week cycle ? And should i just use cnw novla for pct 40mg for 2 weeks then 20 for 2 look good guys!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastynoodles
    thought on nutrex 1-tu
    MUCH cheaper http://www.blackstarlabs.com/?cPath=19&products_id=169

    A dermal will still work a lot better.
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    where to find bdc nutrition t-gel info??? what sites usely carry it ?
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15227

    I believe this guy bought a huge amount of T-4 and possibly T-Gel from Chemo. Shoot him a PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastynoodles
    where to find bdc nutrition t-gel info??? what sites usely carry it ?
    Powernutrition.net carries it as well... http://powernutrition.net/product_in...roducts_id=262
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    Change of plans going with t-gel 5g1-test 2.5g 4-ad,JUST one ? when it all gets here should i add a few grams at a time and shake the **** out of it or all at once?

    cycle will be 40 days on 40 days pct =10 days 40mg with nolva 30 days 20mgs.

    486mg 1-test a day and 264mg 4-ad day,or is that 2 much 4 first cycle?
    Last edited by toastynoodles; 05-20-2004 at 05:34 PM.
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