First time cycle

[toastynoodles]

A guys later down the road was thinking on doing this stack!

1-AD 400mg per day 200mg twice a day for 4weeks
4-ad 600mg per day 300mg twice a dayfor 4weeks

pct 6oxo 600mgs for 10 days then 300mg for 20 days


What do u guys think about ergo pharm supps?ALL input is wanted!!

THIS will be my first stack every just want to get it right so i dont waste the$$$$$.

 

[CEDeoudes59]

I did the same cycle for my 1st cycle. Went up 90lbs on Squat Rep. Amazing Stuff.
I did this however
400mg 1-ad split 3ways (100mg, 100mg, 200mg)
600mg 4-ad split 3ways (200mg, 200mg, 200mg)
It probably doesn't matter though.

 

[PumpingBricks70]

Sounds good. Don't forget to post your results.

 

[toastynoodles]

what brands u guys think are top of the line for 1-ad and 4-ad.

Was think about useing all ergopharm stuff but want the guys who used these ph 1-d 4-ad input on it

 

[Longdog]

Thats a great 1st cycle, but why not save a bunch of cash & just use 1-test over 1ad? 1ad is outrageously expensive & just converts to 1-test anyway, which is much cheaper. Get a 1test/4ad transdermal & you're set.

 

[FBWrestlerNerd]

You can also save like 30 bucks by using nolva instead for pct instead of the 6oxo.
http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=50&osCsid=1b7bcba26e696bbf03cc423b16f1bf40

 

[toastynoodles]

so go with nolva 40mcg for to weeks then 20mcg for 2weeks ? thought on nutrex 1-tu

 

[FBWrestlerNerd]

I think is is mgs, but yeah. Never tried 1-tu so i have no idea. I actually have no idea on how good 1-test is orally, I have only heard people say to either use it trans or by inject. Best of luck

 

[CEDeoudes59]

what brands u guys think are top of the line for 1-ad and 4-ad.

Was think about useing all ergopharm stuff but want the guys who used these ph 1-d 4-ad input on it

IN ERGOPHARM I TRUST

 

[Cuffs]

Ergopharm is a quality brand, and that is a good first cycle. Personally, I would do a 1-test transdermal over 1AD. One reason is for the difference in price, the other because 1AD converts to 1-test. These are also reasons Longdog expressed. 6OXO is fine for this cycle, however, Nolva is much cheaper but can carry legal risks.

Best of luck on whatever you decide.

 

[toastynoodles]

Which 1-test transdermel do u guys use ?AND thought on this S1+ as both 1-test a 4-ad in it 1-test as 100mg and the 4-ad as 150mg in it per 5 pumps

 

[NPursuit]

Which 1-test transdermel do u guys use ?AND thought on this S1+ as both 1-test a 4-ad in it 1-test as 100mg and the 4-ad as 150mg in it per 5 pumps

Just about everyone here uses and favors BDC Nutrition's T-Gel formula, but you are going to have to find someone willing to sell it, because it is not available at this time but you can't go wrong with S1+. It's a good product and should yield nice results.

 

[toastynoodles]

IF i go with the sp1+ should i use 5 or 10 pump twice a day??

5 pumps x 2 times a day is 200mg 1-test and 300 mg 4-ad
10 pumpsx 2 times a day is400mg 1-test and 600mg 4-ad

Which is a better for a a 4week cycle ? And should i just use cnw novla for pct 40mg for 2 weeks then 20 for 2 look good guys!!!!

 

[toastynoodles]

bump

 

[supersoldier]

thought on nutrex 1-tu

MUCH cheaper http://www.blackstarlabs.com/?cPath=19&products_id=169

A dermal will still work a lot better.

 

[toastynoodles]

where to find bdc nutrition t-gel info??? what sites usely carry it ?

 

[supersoldier]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15227

I believe this guy bought a huge amount of T-4 and possibly T-Gel from Chemo. Shoot him a PM.

 

[Scrap]

where to find bdc nutrition t-gel info??? what sites usely carry it ?

Powernutrition.net carries it as well... http://powernutrition.net/product_info.php?products_id=262

 

[toastynoodles]

Change of plans going with t-gel 5g1-test 2.5g 4-ad,JUST one ? when it all gets here should i add a few grams at a time and shake the **** out of it or all at once?

cycle will be 40 days on 40 days pct =10 days 40mg with nolva 30 days 20mgs.

486mg 1-test a day and 264mg 4-ad day,or is that 2 much 4 first cycle?