Poll: Which would be the best stack for a cut

ECA, Clen/T3, h drol/furazadrol, or both (hdrol/furaza/t3/clen) for a cut?

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  1. I have never run T3 straight, i have read that you should ramp the dose up and back down, not sure on the consequences, but the research i did was pretty consistent on that point. I think 100mcg for 8 weeks will be more than you were bargaining for, that + clen, you'll be dropping weight pretty fast.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    I have never run T3 straight, i have read that you should ramp the dose up and back down, not sure on the consequences, but the research i did was pretty consistent on that point. I think 100mcg for 8 weeks will be more than you were bargaining for, that + clen, you'll be dropping weight pretty fast.
    i meant t3 and clen along with 3 bottles of hdrol or 2 depends whats best
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  3. also does liquid t3, liquid clen, or liquid clomid have to be kept refrigerated like IGF-1 lr3?
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Sick one "aorta"?? Now your seriously trying to add high bp to my brian. lol
    ha glad you caught that. ventricle. gotta stop posting so f***in late at night
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    also does liquid t3, liquid clen, or liquid clomid have to be kept refrigerated like IGF-1 lr3?
    no they dont if youre gonna use them all this year. just put em in a cool, dark space
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    I have never run T3 straight, i have read that you should ramp the dose up and back down, not sure on the consequences, but the research i did was pretty consistent on that point. I think 100mcg for 8 weeks will be more than you were bargaining for, that + clen, you'll be dropping weight pretty fast.
    Yeah but you figure along side hdrol he probably wouldn't see much muscle wasting if any.

    Although 100mcg is extremely excessive ran everyday. If you wanted to run 100mcg of T3 EOD that would be acceptable. I'm actually running T3 at 120mcg + 280mcg clen EOD....no muscle loss and am down 25lbs. Granted I did not start at those dosages either....I started that almost 6 weeks ago and have been slowly ramping up over time.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Yeah but you figure along side hdrol he probably wouldn't see much muscle wasting if any.

    Although 100mcg is extremely excessive ran everyday. If you wanted to run 100mcg of T3 EOD that would be acceptable. I'm actually running T3 at 120mcg + 280mcg clen EOD....no muscle loss and am down 25lbs. Granted I did not start at those dosages either....I started that almost 6 weeks ago and have been slowly ramping up over time.
    i just want to use it all...im gonna get a bottle of t3 which is 60ml @100mcg/ml so that would be like 2 months at 100 mcgso idk if i want to use it all or save it cuz man im still broke and i dont think i can afford another hdrol or any ph cyce anytime soon so i said to myself why not just go all out. good or bad?
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    can i run t3 for 8 weeks at 100mcg? (im gonna get a sweet deal on it)
    so hdrol for 6 weeks, clen and t3 for 8 weeks, and then some clomid and some kind of thyroid support?
    is clen EOD at 100mcg good? with benadryl throughout the whole cycle since i already do take it for sleeping
    shoudl i add some stano drol? idk much about clomid anyone know good dosage?
    should i do 3 bottles of hdrol or two? im looking to recomp slightly but mostly cut, i mean im not expecting to add 8lbs while loosing 15lb something more like 6lbs while loosing alot of fat 5-6%
    T3 @ 100mcg for 8weeks? Thats kinda over the top bro, honestly the only difference then t3 @ 50mcg and t3 @ 100mcg is a 50% muscle loss differential. That extra 50 is only gonna shed more muscle then fat, but its your call. Also if you ramp down real slow like then theres not really any need for thyroid support because as your slowly ramping down, your slowly recovering simultaneously, so you should pretty much be around 80-100% recovered if done properly. Look on google for studies, its a proven method.

    And as far as the clen EOD, thats pretty pointless cause ppl only do that to prevent down grading of the b2 receptors, but since your adding benadryl then that excludes the purpose of running clen EOD therfore you can just run it straight. I would also look into ketotifen instead as its clinically proven to upregulate and has other benefits aswell, and is mad cheap. I aslo wouldnt advise you take benadryl on a regular bases to sleep, it fuks with your nervous system and could have long term effects, not to mention its effects could possibly be worn out for you just as any other supplement would after dosing for too long

    as far as clomid, idk. But i dnt think it should be high being that your running the hdrol stand alone. So just off of memory id say something like 100/50? But you know clomids more of a testosterone recovery method, i advise you to also have a estrogen blocker.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Yeah but you figure along side hdrol he probably wouldn't see much muscle wasting if any.

    Although 100mcg is extremely excessive ran everyday. If you wanted to run 100mcg of T3 EOD that would be acceptable. I'm actually running T3 at 120mcg + 280mcg clen EOD....no muscle loss and am down 25lbs. Granted I did not start at those dosages either....I started that almost 6 weeks ago and have been slowly ramping up over time.
    Yo darkhalf can i ask why your running it like that, EOD? IMO your only beating the **** out of your heart EOD and giving it a 1 day rest in between. Whats the benefit of that?

  10. okay so im thinking of doing this now

    hdrol @ 50/75/100/100/100/100/75/50 (3 bottles) or i might do 50/75/75/75/75/75 (2 bottles) opinions on this?

    t3 @ 50/50/100/100/50/50/50/50 (i think im gonna have some leftovers that might just go to waste)
    and then im thinking of doing clenviscerate (eviscerate+clen clan something like 100mcg)
    ill go with benadryl (im using it right now because allergies wont let me sleep and it helps with sleep since right now im on ECA)
    then clomid (i look into dosage later)

    this would be an 8 weeks cycle with maybe 2000 cals even maybe a lil more
    weightraining everyday cardio something like 3-5miles after weightraining like 3-4 times a week
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Yo darkhalf can i ask why your running it like that, EOD? IMO your only beating the **** out of your heart EOD and giving it a 1 day rest in between. Whats the benefit of that?
    EOD clen/t3

    in between those days SD + ketotifen fumarate to prevent muscle catabolism and keep receptors clear

  12. roch do the clomid at 50/50/50/25

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    roch do the clomid at 50/50/50/25
    so how does my cycle look?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    so how does my cycle look?
    Like ****. heres an example of how id do it-

    WK 1-8 Clen, 40(ramp up to 160 by day 7)/160/160/160/160/160/160/160
    WK 1-8 T3, 25/50/50/50/50/37.5/25/12.5
    Wk 1-6 Hdrol,50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100

    (remember everything also can stop at your desired tolerence lvl)

    -Ketotifen Every 3rd week = 2mg ED
    -Taurine 4-5g ED
    -Multivitamin
    -Etc...

    -PCT

  15. Btw is the is the ephedrine your using right now the alkaloids or with out?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Btw is the is the ephedrine your using right now the alkaloids or with out?
    primatene
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    primatene
    Alkaloids right? Did u have trouble wit the shipping? What state are you in?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Alkaloids right? Did u have trouble wit the shipping? What state are you in?
    yes, no trouble, california
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    yes, no trouble, california
    Funny cause I live here in L.A. And the ristrictions are so sick. Evm through amazon it says u must sent fax of ID to recieve product. And other sites won't ship to CA. Other than that my sources carry clen/alb, no ephedra though, keeps me wanting to try some that much more!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Funny cause I live here in L.A. And the ristrictions are so sick. Evm through amazon it says u must sent fax of ID to recieve product. And other sites won't ship to CA. Other than that my sources carry clen/alb, no ephedra though, keeps me wanting to try some that much more!
    well yeah bro you have to send your ID. or just go to walgreens and get some.
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    well yeah bro you have to send your ID. or just go to walgreens and get some.
    tried the walgreens, its banned in CA, has been for like the past 3 years. Do u know if the kind u have is pure alkaloids, or just ephedra HCL or HCl?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    tried the walgreens, its banned in CA, has been for like the past 3 years. Do u know if the kind u have is pure alkaloids, or just ephedra HCL or HCl?
    mine is ephedra hcl
    but if im not mistaken its approved by fda so i mean quality has to be good
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    mine is ephedra hcl
    but if im not mistaken its approved by fda so i mean quality has to be good
    Scratch that, just got 60tabs from walgreens. But yea i heard theres a diference between the HCL with a capital and the HCl with a lower case, cant remember exactly what though.. What does your ECA stack look like??

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Scratch that, just got 60tabs from walgreens. But yea i heard theres a diference between the HCL with a capital and the HCl with a lower case, cant remember exactly what though.. What does your ECA stack look like??
    really?, i doubt it man, i mean HCl stands for hydrochloride i mean i dont think it matters if its HCL or HCl.
    im doing 25 E, 200 C, and 81 A twice a day
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    really?, i doubt it man, i mean HCl stands for hydrochloride i mean i dont think it matters if its HCL or HCl.
    im doing 25 E, 200 C, and 81 A twice a day
    In terms of synthetic and natural is the difference, i think HCL is man made, pretty much same value though i guess. How is that stack working out so far? You know you should sub the Asprin for some yohimbe it strengthens the effects, i honestly cant remember why the asprin is needed?
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