Poll: Which would be the best stack for a cut

ECA, Clen/T3, h drol/furazadrol, or both (hdrol/furaza/t3/clen) for a cut?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
    how does this look

    furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
    h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
    trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
    +some support
    than nolva @ 3/2/2/1

    I think this is the way to go. Hdrol at 100 ED for 6 weeks is kind of high IMO, and most consider the sweet spot for hdol to be 75mg. If you're stacking 2 PH's I'd keep it at where you have it here.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    what if i buy 4 more bottles allowing me to dose furaza @ 350 for 6 weeks and then do hdrol @ how i had it? i little better like that?
    yeah that would work.....and drop that trisorbagen crap sounds like a complete rip off to me.
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  3. Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-

    WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
    WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
    WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40

    But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
    i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-

    WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
    WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
    WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40

    But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
    i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.
    honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
    honestly i have only usesd tren-13 & nolvadex xt before, however i do know about a good amount of prohormones but h-drol is not one of them. As far as cutting with PH, it depends what kind of goals u expect. For example if u wanted to drop 30lbs of fat and gain 20 in muscle then yea id say u definately will need a good ph stack to keep u strong, pumped and give that edge u need to gain muscle during that damage phase. But if u only wanna cut and are not gonna really focus much on weight lifting days, then id say its more of a waste of money then results. Also depends on what type of stimulants u add too such as t3, if u plan on running that higher then 50mcg ED for longer than 4weeks then id say definatly add the PHs.

    But then again in ur budget situation id say thats kind of a waste too becuase your spending all that money on phs that are just being used to gain muscle so that the t3 can have something to eat(if u were to use t3). Its like buying a pet to look cute but u gotta buy him food. I think most ppl usually waste that much money to keep there muscles cause they can, but mainly cause they have alot to lose if they dont protect them. My first use of t3 i didnt use any ph or aas, and honestly i didnt notice much, if any muscle loss at all. But now that i have about 10lbs of fat to loose, and could use about 10lbs of muscle, i'd say this is the perfect opportunity for a ph cutting stack..
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  6. yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
    I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.

    And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.

    And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
    Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.

  10. BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..
    Im back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..

    Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    I back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..

    Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.
    in theory yes as it increases the duration and potency of ph's so a high dose of ph and this on top of it should give more sides and more results
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
    Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.
    yup, i wouldnt do that
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.
    Not sound advice. Whether there's a family history of hypertension or not, the potentiation of these drugs will skyrocket BP. And whats a thermometer gonna do? lol Sphygmomanometers measure blood pressure...
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    And whats a thermometer gonna do? lol Sphygmomanometers measure blood pressure...
    Maybe he's measuring BP through his a$$???

  17. Quote Originally Posted by seunim View Post
    Maybe he's measuring BP through his a$$???
    Haha genius. I was actually thinking about body tempurature at the time. How about the two of you go activate the Photon Accelerator Annihilation Beam on the Transfunctioner. Sphygmomanometers are the only things that have to do wit my a$$.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Haha genius. I was actually thinking about body tempurature at the time. How about the two of you go activate the Photon Accelerator Annihilation Beam on the Transfunctioner. Sphygmomanometers are the only things that have to do wit my a$$.
    hahaha thats classic.. sorry if it was too technical.. i shouldve said BP cuff and dumbed it down a bit..

    really though, putting all that s*** in your body at one time is silly dog... he wants to recomp, not add 10 pounds to his left aorta
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DaSlixter View Post
    Haha genius. I was actually thinking about body tempurature at the time. How about the two of you go activate the Photon Accelerator Annihilation Beam on the Transfunctioner. Sphygmomanometers are the only things that have to do wit my a$$.
    Okay...nice one. No harm meant bro. lol

  20. who thinks this would be a good cut or maybe even a recomp

    hdrol/clen/t3

    or should i add some stano drol? or furaza?
    anybbody know dosage for clomid?
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    hahaha thats classic.. sorry if it was too technical.. i shouldve said BP cuff and dumbed it down a bit..

    really though, putting all that s*** in your body at one time is silly dog... he wants to recomp, not add 10 pounds to his left aorta
    Sick one "aorta"?? Now your seriously trying to add high bp to my brian. lol

  22. guys?, need help.
    i wanna run a cut with hdrol/clen/t3
    but idk if i should run 6 or 8 weeks?
    how much t3? how much clen? should hdrol be best at 50/75/75/75/75/75
    or 3 bottles @ 50/75/100/100/100/100/75/50 (8 weeks) along with clen and t3 for the last 6weeks of hdrol cycle
    clomid @ 150/150/100/50?

    any help guys im looking to cut while add some solid lbs of muscle and some strength, i would appreciate any help thanks guys
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    guys?, need help.
    i wanna run a cut with hdrol/clen/t3
    but idk if i should run 6 or 8 weeks?
    how much t3? how much clen? should hdrol be best at 50/75/75/75/75/75
    or 3 bottles @ 50/75/100/100/100/100/75/50 (8 weeks) along with clen and t3 for the last 6weeks of hdrol cycle
    clomid @ 150/150/100/50?

    any help guys im looking to cut while add some solid lbs of muscle and some strength, i would appreciate any help thanks guys
    I'd go....

    Hdrol 75 for 6 weeks
    T3 50mcg per day

    clen start at 40mcg and work your way up to a level that you can tolerate
    you can do the clen EOD, one week on one week off, or two weeks on two weeks off

    make sure your cals are at maintenance or slightly above for recomp

  24. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    guys?, need help.
    i wanna run a cut with hdrol/clen/t3
    but idk if i should run 6 or 8 weeks?
    how much t3? how much clen? should hdrol be best at 50/75/75/75/75/75
    or 3 bottles @ 50/75/100/100/100/100/75/50 (8 weeks) along with clen and t3 for the last 6weeks of hdrol cycle
    clomid @ 150/150/100/50?

    any help guys im looking to cut while add some solid lbs of muscle and some strength, i would appreciate any help thanks guys
    Id say 8weeks for the clen/t3, cause once your paste 6weeks which is the 2nd week you'll be taking either ketotifen or benadryl, It really wouldnt make sense to stop right there, just go another 2weeks, thats the whole reason keto/benadryl is used to upregulate your receptors for another 2 weeks. And i think the clomids to high and long + wheres the estro blocker?

  25. can i run t3 for 8 weeks at 100mcg? (im gonna get a sweet deal on it)
    so hdrol for 6 weeks, clen and t3 for 8 weeks, and then some clomid and some kind of thyroid support?
    is clen EOD at 100mcg good? with benadryl throughout the whole cycle since i already do take it for sleeping
    shoudl i add some stano drol? idk much about clomid anyone know good dosage?
    should i do 3 bottles of hdrol or two? im looking to recomp slightly but mostly cut, i mean im not expecting to add 8lbs while loosing 15lb something more like 6lbs while loosing alot of fat 5-6%
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
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