ECA, Clen/T3, h drol/furazadrol, or both (hdrol/furaza/t3/clen) for a cut?
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06-03-2010 10:16 AM
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Clen and ECA act on the same receptors so you'll notice the effects from both disappear much quicker. I think Clen/T3 EOD with hdrol/furaz for 6 weeks would be a good cycle IMO.
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06-03-2010 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
TheDarkHalf
Clen and ECA act on the same receptors so you'll notice the effects from both disappear much quicker. I think Clen/T3 EOD with hdrol/furaz for 6 weeks would be a good cycle IMO.
that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
how does this look
furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
+some support
than nolva @ 3/2/2/1
anybody have any input on hemadrol, trying to save some cashing by buying that instead of hdrol as hema is only $20 but i heard it was a bunk you think i should just go with hdrol @$27 (im really broke
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06-03-2010 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
how does this look
furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
+some support
than nolva @ 3/2/2/1
anybody have any input on hemadrol, trying to save some cashing by buying that instead of hdrol as hema is only $20 but i heard it was a bunk you think i should just go with hdrol @$27 (im really broke

)
To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...
furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/
ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you
WTF is trisorbagen???
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06-03-2010 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by
TheDarkHalf
To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...
furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/
ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you
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06-03-2010 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
TheDarkHalf
To bad your budget is limiting. I'd say run it like this...
furaz 350/350/350/350/350/350/
Hdrol 100/100/100/100/100/100/
ECA EOD - 100mg E, 800mg C, A or Y up to you
WTF is trisorbagen???
what if i buy 4 more bottles allowing me to dose furaza @ 350 for 6 weeks and then do hdrol @ how i had it? i little better like that?
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06-04-2010 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
that would be nice if i had the money unfortunately i dont. and t3 is kinda expensive, so i already have the ECA i have to choose between the h/furaza and the t3/clen ans since i already have 1 bottle of furaza and hdrol i think im gonna go with that.
how does this look
furaza 250/300/300/300/300/300
h drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
trisorbagen 2caps for 45 days
+some support
than nolva @ 3/2/2/1
I think this is the way to go. Hdrol at 100 ED for 6 weeks is kind of high IMO, and most consider the sweet spot for hdol to be 75mg. If you're stacking 2 PH's I'd keep it at where you have it here.
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06-04-2010 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
what if i buy 4 more bottles allowing me to dose furaza @ 350 for 6 weeks and then do hdrol @ how i had it? i little better like that?
yeah that would work.....and drop that trisorbagen crap sounds like a complete rip off to me.
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06-04-2010 11:41 AM
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Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-
WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40
But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.
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06-04-2010 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
DaSlixter
Try to save up about $50 more. Then you can get 3 bottles of furaza, 1 of havoc, and 2 of ECA. Youd have enough to make this cycle-
WK 1-8 ECA xtreme 3 tabs ED = 25mg Ephedra, 200mg caffine, 325mg asprin per tab.
WK 1-6 Furaza 150/150/200/250/300/300 or a lil less.
WK 1-4 Havoc 30/30/30/40
But then ud kinda be **** out of luck on the pct. But save sum green throughout the cycle so that by the time your finished ull have enough for a pct.
i know kinda weak but it fits ur budget and as long as u train hard and eat right you shuld be ok. But nobody suggest starting until your fully prepaired. Check out my similar thread.
honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
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06-04-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
honestly i tried havoc and thought it was crap, others say its awesome but i dont like. yeah i already have the ECA for 2 months, just need 1 bottle os hdrol and 3-4 bottles of furaza and a serm. im about to purchase hdrol online right now but you think its worth it, cutting with hormonals some say its stupid because you can do it with out hormonals and just with eca. what do you think?
honestly i have only usesd tren-13 & nolvadex xt before, however i do know about a good amount of prohormones but h-drol is not one of them. As far as cutting with PH, it depends what kind of goals u expect. For example if u wanted to drop 30lbs of fat and gain 20 in muscle then yea id say u definately will need a good ph stack to keep u strong, pumped and give that edge u need to gain muscle during that damage phase. But if u only wanna cut and are not gonna really focus much on weight lifting days, then id say its more of a waste of money then results. Also depends on what type of stimulants u add too such as t3, if u plan on running that higher then 50mcg ED for longer than 4weeks then id say definatly add the PHs.
But then again in ur budget situation id say thats kind of a waste too becuase your spending all that money on phs that are just being used to gain muscle so that the t3 can have something to eat(if u were to use t3). Its like buying a pet to look cute but u gotta buy him food. I think most ppl usually waste that much money to keep there muscles cause they can, but mainly cause they have alot to lose if they dont protect them. My first use of t3 i didnt use any ph or aas, and honestly i didnt notice much, if any muscle loss at all. But now that i have about 10lbs of fat to loose, and could use about 10lbs of muscle, i'd say this is the perfect opportunity for a ph cutting stack..
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06-04-2010 03:22 PM
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yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
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06-04-2010 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
yeah so im gonna strictly cut on ECA for 2 months and then im gonna recomp with hdrol/furaza, my goal on hdrol/furaza would be to gain a total of net, 6lbs, while dropping a good 2-4% BF think its possible? BTW im not gonna add t3 or clen, im just gonna use eca then hdrol/fura
I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.
And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.
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06-04-2010 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
DaSlixter
I think if your not gonna use t3 then just throw in the eca with the hdrol/furaz. Itll be pointless to do one then the next, ud be wasting time. I only suggested t3 alone if u didnt mind shedding some muscle and because the more muscle u gained off the ph, the more muscle the t3 would shed. But eca doesnt have that catabolic effect t3 has.
And 6lbs of muscles is kinda under expected if u ask me. It sounds like ur expecting to gain very little, cmon now, are you also expecting to have minimal work outs, crappy diet, and a ****ty pct? Didnt think so. Set high but humanly possible goals, and you'll surprise yourself. I gained almost 10lbs of muscle off of tren-13 alone! But then it was during my clen cycle and clen has been said to work anabolic like in conjuntion with other anabolic like substances.
ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
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06-04-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.
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06-04-2010 05:46 PM
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BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..
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06-04-2010 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
DaSlixter
BTW- This "trisorbagen".. Does it really work?? Sounds interesting if something like this really does excist. Im on my way to google every single ingrediant it has..
Im back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..
Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.
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06-04-2010 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
DaSlixter
I back. Product seems pretty sick, will possibly order some later..
Q. Now my only question is, will my already high doses + the addition of this stuff, increase side effects aswell? Anybody wanna touch on that.
in theory yes as it increases the duration and potency of ph's so a high dose of ph and this on top of it should give more sides and more results
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06-05-2010 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by
rochabp
ECA on hdrol/fura thats insane dude blood preassure would go through the roof, sorry but im not gonna do that. and i meant 6lbs in NET meaning drop like 8lbs and gain like 14lbs of muscle
Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.
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06-05-2010 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
seunim
Indeed. Not a good idea IMO.
yup, i wouldnt do that
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06-06-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
DaSlixter
Have you seen my cycle? I'll probly have blood volcano'ing through my pores! lol. Cmon that aint the most insane cycle anybody has ever done. If a 300 pound fat dude can live long enouh to even be 300 pounds, then trust me, ull live. But on the other hand if hypertention is a problem in your family then yea thats when id start worring. But if u do decide to go through wit that then just keep a thermometer by ur side. And yea that net sounds alot better.
Not sound advice. Whether there's a family history of hypertension or not, the potentiation of these drugs will skyrocket BP. And whats a thermometer gonna do? lol Sphygmomanometers measure blood pressure...
Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.
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