Ok to work out more often when on PH's?
05-03-2004 02:43 PM
Ok to work out more often when on PH's?
I work at home, and have all my equipment here. So I have nothing better to do than workout when Im not working. I don't know if its me or what, but I recover very fast, so I'm wondering since I'm on a 1-test/4AD cycle, would it be ok to work out more often? Mainly chest. I normally do 2days a week for chest, can I do it every other day? That's 48 hours rest.
Or am I going to stress my chest out and not get results?
05-03-2004 02:51 PM
You do recover faster while on PH's and you should up your volume (in sets/reps). I wouldn't work a bodypart more than once a week,but thats just me. If you want you could add more days to your training split....like make it a 4day split or work one body part a day....for 5 days ect....I know what you mean, I have all my equipment at home also, never set foot in a gym in my life.
05-03-2004 03:00 PM
Yeah, I guess I could do that. It's just hard to resist, like right now I am sitting here with nothing to do, I could do so much. It's mainly the chest that Im concerned about.
Originally Posted by SCORPIO
But do you think it will hurt to workout this often? Will I get worse results?
05-03-2004 03:18 PM
If your training a body part 2-3 times a week, wether on phs or not you will prolly over train. I would pick one body part per day and bust it up real good, then go on to the next tomorrow. Working the muscle for endurance and working it for hypertrophy are two different things. I'll put it to you like this when I started practicing the 'less is more' style of training, is when I saw more growth....then again thats just me. you could look into some alternate training methods, like gvt german volume training.....hst hypertrophy specific training ect.......then go to Iron addicts/dogg crapps style training when 'off', which is what I use most of the time. Do a search on some of these, hope that helps.
05-03-2004 03:44 PM
scorpio, that first sentence is (imo) simply not true.
first of all, the primary factor in overtraining (or more appropriate to your comment: overreaching not overtraining) is going to be total volume, NOT frequency.
if you are training a bp 2-3 times a week you may have the same, or even less volume total per bp than you would training it once a week.
this train a bp once a week thinh is weider-inspired thang, and simply not optimal, let alone necessary to avoid overtraining or overreaching
on or off ph's
05-03-2004 04:00 PM
jjj, you're right on about total volume (I should have been more clear), which is why I suggested he look into diff training....such as with HST, which is if I remember correctly, a full body workout 3x wk using lower vol.
Originally Posted by jjjd
And as for the training a body part a day, didn't know it was a weider thing, just a suggestion to keep occupied through the week, since he always wants to hit the weights.
In the end we're all different, so what works for one will not for the other.....but yeah, I know what you're saying thanks for the correction.
05-03-2004 04:20 PM
no probs. i disagree with most everything IA says (at least his unique training methodology) and i saw many here recommend his programs, however i respect diverse viewpoints. so, i realize i am taking on accepted stuff here that most people agree on, and will get disagreement in re: volume, frequency, etc.
but that's kewl. i do make the distinction between frequency and volume, though, and i'm glad you agree
05-03-2004 05:47 PM
I started a cycle last week and I started training 3 on ,1 off.My usual routine is 2on,1off.With my routine now I'm working each body part once every 5 days.Everyone is different,but IMO if you are working chest everyother day you are either overtraining or not working it hard enough when you do.
05-03-2004 06:08 PM
I would have to agree with scorpio. I have tried training body parts more than once a week(while on AS) and training bodys parts once a week, And for me I got much better results with once a week. I have trained with too many top notch people that agree. Its all about what you do with that time in the gym/home gym. Not about how times train. Just find what works for you and stick with it. Just my opinion
05-03-2004 07:25 PM
it also depends on your goal. for people whose goal includes athletic performance (vs. primarily hypertrophy) then more frequency and less volume PER bp per workout is generally superior. there is a reason why nearly all OLers squat 3-4 days a week, for instance.
and why many plers such as those trained by sheiko, do the basic lifts 2-4 or more times per week (several bench sessions per week). imo, jetset the issue is not how hard you work it that allows multiple sessions, it is about volume.
granted olers and plers don't work bodyparts per se, as much as they work lifts, however the reality is that there are many programs, and even some good bber programs (HST comes to mind) that incorporate multiple sessions per week
fwiw, i do not even use a weekly microcycle. i use an 8, 9, or 10 day cycle, depending.
7 days works for some people. i prefer 8.
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