Better gains with epistane or m-drol
- 04-22-2010, 12:30 AM
Better gains with epistane or m-drol
I am getting ready to run another cycle....I have methyl e m-drol and 11-sterone in my possession....I know methyl e and m-drol are BOTH methylated compounds so I will NOT be combining them. However....I ran a cycle of methyl e last cycle...gained about 7-8 lbs in 28 days and I have retained all of it. What kind of mass gains should I expect to see from the m-drol/11-sterone stack? Please and thank you
- 04-22-2010, 12:01 PM
you could see about 2wice that in a 3 week cycle of m drol. I wouldnt take it like everyone says to though(10/20/20-30). I'd just run it 10/10/10/10, or pulse it at 10mg MWF. for 6 weeks. Fast gains are hard to retain. Your body will try to reject them. The faster they come, the faster they go. Superdrol is powerful. I think it is overdosed. You need to line up a PCT with a serm. You need all the support supps esp and liver protectant. Pro Hormones and Designer Steroids are serious business. Be careful with your endocrine system. It's the only one you get.Everything I say is fictional and for entertainment purposes only. Do not ask me for sources. I dont have any.
- 04-22-2010, 12:08 PM
04-22-2010, 12:22 PM
Depending on your body type it is hard to say. expect anywhere from 10-20 lbs. I personally gained 18lbs on a 4 week superdrol cycle kept about 13 I am leaning more towards the mesomorph side (not pure) I gain muscle really fast and lose fat fast as well on a good diet. but you should expect at least 7lbs of lean mass. And ALWAYS run a serm such as nolva and dose it 40/20/20/10. M-drol is just like superdrol, is like d-bol and d-bol WILL shut you down with out a serm. some people will tell you it is not neccisary but it is absolutly neccisary. Like mama always says i i i itt always betta to be safe than sorry "water boy"
04-22-2010, 03:37 PM
I ran m-drol 10/20/20 and gained 15 lbs, keeping 12lbs.
i ran epi at 20/30/30/40 and gained 8 pounds keeping 7 of them.
m-drol is ridic, honestly for the risk your taking doing this stuff u mind as well get what u want, which im assuming is muscle. m-drol ftw
04-22-2010, 03:54 PM
04-22-2010, 05:04 PM
04-23-2010, 01:01 PM
you will get much better gains with super, both size and strength. pct with a serm. If you are that worred about your L.E., take NAC while on cycle.
04-23-2010, 02:01 PM
I want to take as many precautions as I can....I will be taking PCT assist and NOLVA as well as some sort of liver care compound for pct....I am looking at ON Cycle but from what I can tell it just enhances test....not much liver care......I think with 11 oxo/Mdrol I dont need ON cycle....opinions...suggestion s?
04-23-2010, 06:14 PM
The supports for my Superdrol cycle went like this:
MultiVitamin with megadosed antioxidants
5g Fish Oil
Milk Thistle 1g a day
Post Cycle was:
all supports used on cycle
In hindsight I probably should have run the ZMA while on too. It was added in later to help with some issues with the quality of my sleep.
I had decided against using NAC, for reasons that included Dr. D's articles on the matter.
Taurine was not added in because I never felt the pumps to be so painful as to necessitate spending extra money on another supp. Walking long distances wasn't fun, but other than that I was just peachy.
So by no means is this list perfect, but it worked for me. I'm new to the PH/AAS game too, and by no means an expert.
However, the boys came back quick, and with a vengeance.
Last edited by Totenkopf; 04-23-2010 at 06:21 PM. Reason: NAC, and others.
04-24-2010, 12:32 AM
04-24-2010, 06:18 AM
04-24-2010, 11:48 AM
04-24-2010, 12:24 PM
04-24-2010, 12:47 PM
04-24-2010, 01:33 PM
Epi for me. Made me aggressive in the gym and a big appetite. On SD I felt drained and had no appetite
04-24-2010, 10:44 PM
i think this will be my cycle... m-drol 10/20/20/20-30 11 oxo 0/450/450/450 epi 0/0/30/30 what does everyone think?
04-26-2010, 11:37 AM
04-26-2010, 12:27 PM
i agree, looks like you may be purchasing a new liver down the road. IMO its an overkill cycle.
M-drol is strong enough as a STANDALONE, let alone stacking it with 2 other compounds, another of them being methylated... the M-drol and 11-sterone combo would be just fine. combining all three however, would more than likely be overkill on your body.
Lets put it this way, i am finishing up week 1 of PCT for my 4 week M-drol cycle (20mgs/day the entire cycle). i gained 25 lbs from the cycle, going from ~170-195, and so far after 1 week of pct i have only lost 2 lbs. I am hoping to retain anywhere from 15-20 lbs after pct. My point is, could I have seen bigger and better gains in strength and weight if i started stacking M-drol with countless other hormones.... possibly. But would it have been worth the added risk of negatively affecting my body in various ways for the long term... NOT AT ALL.
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