M-drol Cycle suggestions please
- 04-20-2010, 11:49 PM
M-drol Cycle suggestions please
Hello all! I am preparing to run my second cycle of Prohormones. I am without a doubt going to run CEL M-drol at 10/20/20/20 (If too high please tell me). I also have in my possession Methyl E by Est and 11-sterone by CEL. Now I know M-drol has a DI-methyl strand in it which makes it VERY harsh....and the methyl E has a methyl strand in it which also makes it harsh....however the 11-sterone does not. Is it safe to stack M-drol with ANYTHING without blowing out my liver? thanks and yes I will have liver support ON cycle and a SERM handy thank you for your time!
- 04-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Yes they are fine to stack together there are actually numerous good reports about it being a good stack. I would not run m-drol longer than 4 weeks because it is very potent stuff, Deffinatly dont forget about running some kind of liver support. I like CEL's cycle Assist it has everything you need while on a cycle. And DEFINATLY dont forget about your PCT because it WILL shut you down. I ran the original superdrol (same thing as M-drol) about a year ago. I gained about 18lbs and kept about 13-14 of lean muscle. good luck!
- 04-22-2010, 04:12 PM
Thanks....what should I have on hand for pct? I will have some NOLVA and I am guessing this will do the trick....will I need anything more?
04-22-2010, 04:21 PM
Nolva should work just fine, dose it at 40/20/20/20. If you wanted you could run some PCT assist by CEL, or some other OTC test booster with it. wouldnt hurt.
04-22-2010, 10:04 PM
04-22-2010, 10:51 PM
04-22-2010, 10:56 PM
04-22-2010, 11:04 PM
i have taken it in higher doses stacked with phera for up to 5-6 weeks. NAC while on, and pct with tamox. bloodwork confirms that i am fine. I do not advise this, i am a fairly experienced aas user and each person will respond diffrently.
04-22-2010, 11:06 PM
04-22-2010, 11:09 PM
my mistake, he is not running megaplex. he is however running several strong compounds at once... hes definitely not someone who should be readily handing out misleading information to others.
My Prhormones Log-Superdrol, Max LMG, Dymethazine,
04-23-2010, 12:44 AM
OP running sd at 40 or beyond 4 weeks is idiotic. Start low and stop when you are not getting more gains. I ran sd at 30 my first time for 28 days. I would have stopped at week 3 since I gained practically nothing last week. Which is the case with most people. Play it by ear and only bump it past 30 if you need to.
04-23-2010, 01:12 AM
Secondly I think someother forums are more conservative actually. The former phf/ mff is actually more conservative than this bunch of guys IMO
04-23-2010, 01:47 AM
I too know how you feel since I am very for lack of a better word i feel somewhat immune to alot of things. Such as sides, usually don't feel like crap, Stims don't effect me too much, my body just kind of stays neutral most if the time but that doesnt mean I want to mess my hormones or endocrine system for potentially years but stressing it to a point where it has trouble recovering naturally.
Either way neither of us will be talked into changing how we run our cycles or treat our bodies, but encouraging people, especially newbs who may stumble accross these post later to run potentially reckless cycles, just because you might.
Don't you think since it's there bodies you should let them take it as slow as they will allow themselves before getting crazy with cycles?
Side note, no one can really say exactly how these designer steroids will affect us in the long run since unlike real injectable gear they have not been around long enough to develop a history. I guess we will all know really how safe or unsafe these things reall are in 20 years or so.
Okay I'm going to step off of my soap box now. Haha
04-23-2010, 02:12 AM
well this is my doseage for m-drol/11 sterone m-drol 10/20/20/30 or 10/20/20/20 probably the last one seeing as sdrol can be harsh...and sterone 450/450/450/450.......I have epistane in my possession but it is methylated so I am going to save it for my next cycle to stack with something else that is not methylated......I am on a summer cut right now for 6 weeks....no ph just mitotropin/cytolean only day 4........anyways thanks for the advice guys....
04-23-2010, 08:20 AM
04-23-2010, 10:08 AM
04-23-2010, 10:37 AM
04-23-2010, 12:17 PM
I highly reccoment that you go to a doctor and have bloodwork done to check LE instead of going by how you feel, and have a creatinine test to check kidney function. As many of you that have been here for a while know, I run very high doses of many compounds, both oral and or not, but i have bloodwork, and kidney function done and adjust by that rather than how i "feel" some particular day. I use other peoples opnions, and my own past experiences to get a rough outline of a cycle, but the numbers on paper are the ones that help me fine tune it and help me keep myself safe.
04-23-2010, 12:29 PM
pct nolva 20/20/10/10
i ran this stack it was fun
04-23-2010, 10:27 PM
wed, are you trying to bodybuild? if so why in the world would you run this stack, you are; a) a monster with your stats in which case you would not be useing ps/ds or, b) way to high in bodyfat and should be focusing on cutting
04-24-2010, 07:48 AM
i just ran a cycle of tren 1 month ago
just cuz you get the mass you want does not mean you are done you need to work on weak points. my last cycle i dedicated to my rear dealt and inner chest.i work them each 2 times a week my shoulders exploded my chest flattened out nice and my inside lower pec squared off my chest does not touch in the center yet so i still have some work on that.
04-24-2010, 01:59 PM
so can i run epi 11 oxo and m-drol at the same time or would that be too much on my liver?
04-24-2010, 02:53 PM
04-24-2010, 02:58 PM
that is your call yes it will be hard on you. you need to way the risk. i said i ran s,d, and epi togeither.if you mix 2 methyls keep the dose on the low side. and when stacking 2 ph i like to start 1 then a week later start the other week later raise 1 then a week later raise the other 1. this way if you get bad sides you will have a idea which. one is the problem then you can stop that one and not dump the hole cycle.i would not add the 11-oxo imo.the epi / s.d. cycle i ran when said and done netted like 15 ibs if i remember right.
04-24-2010, 03:15 PM
if u've never ran the m-drol run it solo, if thats not in ur mind to do atleast create a proper bridge from the m-drol to the epi and dont stack it. I would recommend the mdrol at 10/20/20/20-30 then pct with nolva 40/20/20/20 and add in some lean xtreme or other cortisol supp for weeks 3-6 of ur pct.
04-24-2010, 06:24 PM
so how does this sound. m-drol 10/20/20/20-30 epi 0/20/30/30, 11 oxo 0/0/450/450?
04-24-2010, 10:34 PM
this willl have u stacking the methyls together for a shorter amount of time and extend ur cycle allowing the epi to help maintain and harden ur mdrol gains making it easier to maintain while possibly still increasing strength.
04-24-2010, 10:41 PM
04-24-2010, 10:56 PM
so a six week cycle? Hmm I like A. the look of that, B. The length of that, and C. Im gunna do it! Thanks guys....How long should pct be? 6 solid weeks too?
04-25-2010, 06:08 AM
on my sd/epi bridge i ran nolva weeks 1-4, cortisol control (Lean Xtreme) weeks 3-6
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