$58 left what else do I need?
- 04-08-2010, 11:50 PM
$58 left what else do I need?
Formulations X Halo-X 2 bottles(hdrol)
AI Cycle Support 2.0 2 bottles
Nutraplanet Taurine 1 bottle
AI Post Cycle Support 1 bottle
SNS Inhibit-E 1 bottle
DS Lean Xtreme 1 bottle
AI Perform 1 bottle
Staples: tons of protein, BCAAs, Fish Oil
- 04-08-2010, 11:54 PM
04-08-2010, 11:57 PM
04-08-2010, 11:59 PM
04-09-2010, 12:02 AM
why do so many ppl still recommend serm for Hdrol? for rebound? because on cycle it won't convert to E, right. and it's not like i'm stacking it with Bold or Furuzadrol.
Last edited by statik; 04-09-2010 at 12:02 AM. Reason: :)
04-09-2010, 12:05 AM
everyone reacts different to all these steroids, just because its considered "mild" doesnt mean it wont shut u down. do u want to do the cycle, run ur PCT....and be like "f uck, i feel like ****, i dont think im recovered"
04-09-2010, 12:06 AM
04-09-2010, 12:13 AM
Now creatine and NO I have laying around for PCT. Yeah I see what you mean about shutdown. I guess even though I've read through all the debates on OTC vs SERM with the milder PS I still just haven't seriously considered a SERM. I feel like if I'm going to have it on hand that I should just go ahead and base PCT around it, ya know. I have a lot of friends that ran OTC on Hdrol and didn't have any problems. One even got his blood test afterwords and his test was fine. The only friend that seemed to have problems stacked with BOLD and he was pretty shut down so I assumed that was due to stacking on his first cycle.
Question on SERMs. Research chems vs pill form? Recommendations?
04-09-2010, 12:19 AM
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04-09-2010, 12:21 AM
04-09-2010, 01:11 AM
just go with the liquid, it is much easier to come by IMO and is more than likely as effective. Do a quick google search and read some reviews before choosing a brand
04-09-2010, 01:16 AM
04-09-2010, 01:50 AM
04-09-2010, 01:54 AM
Doesn't. Let me edit. Lol
Since you are going with a serm try and get pharma grade. Sometimes cheaper, and it doesn't taste like ass.
04-09-2010, 02:09 AM
04-09-2010, 02:19 AM
I'm also unclear as to why a person would need anything with furazadrol. If my understanding is correct this is a derivative of the steroid furazbol, featuring a THP ether as opposed to the C17 methyl group, to work around its legality. If this is the case, we're talking about a 5ar steroid, very similar to winstrol (pyrazol group replaced by furazol). Estrogen conversion is not going to be an issue.
04-09-2010, 09:52 PM
That's my whole thing: with these compounds e conversion during cycle is not an issue, so I've always wondered why everyone pushed so hard to use a SERM just to be safe. I'm assuming for rebound. Either way, I agree with better safe than sorry, even for Hdrol. It's just hard to make a decision on that. If it were Sdrol, Tren, etc., not using a SERM wouldn't even be an option in my mind.
I figured since it was Hdrol OTC with inhibit-E would control any rebound of E and I've always responded well to natty test boosters. I thought that would be enough and also keep a SERM onhand. The original post wasn't really to get into SERMS, it was to see what else someone would add in that I was missing(besides a SERM). But I won't complain as I enjoy all the debate over SERM/OTC with Hdrol.
This will be my first PH/PS, so I'm still learning. Thx for the input guys.
04-12-2010, 03:52 AM
IMO you should use clomid because it brings you back fast (beyond 100%) and makes it easier to hold gains. At a reasonable dose side effects are pretty much nonexistent. I'm a big fan of it.
04-12-2010, 04:00 AM
A Serm may be beneficial due to homeostasis. Your body post cycle detects low levels of test so it skyrockets test and estrogen? Someone correct me if I'm wrong there.
04-12-2010, 06:32 PM
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