Summer Cycle! Clen/T3/SD
- 03-19-2010, 10:48 AM
Summer Cycle! Clen/T3/SD
Aight so i'm basically starting to slowly cut back my food intake and increase my cardio...so i'll be about 4-6 weeks into dieting down for the summer when I start this stack and will start on may 1st.
Here's what i'm looking at...
Week 1-2: Clen
Week 2-4: SD + ketotifen
Week 4-6: Clen + PCT
Week 6-8: SD + ketotifen
Week 8-10:Clen + PCT
I am thinking about throwing in T3 with the weeks i'm on clen. My biggest concern is the muscle catabolism that T3 induces....but i also know it's has a synergy with Clen. My thought is that with throwing in some SD that this will help me retain my size and possibly replace any muscle that gets ate up by the T3. Maybe T3 EOD while on the clen...
- 03-19-2010, 12:35 PM
I also have some eviscerate i'm planning on using with the clen. No, not clenviscerate. I'd much rather eat my clen and apply the eviscerate as directed.
03-19-2010, 12:42 PM
03-19-2010, 12:51 PM
03-19-2010, 01:25 PM
why not pulse the SD all the way through and run clen EOD. clen receptor down regulation will be less as well as keeping the anabolics all the way through
this was you can stop at 6 weeks and do a light PCT
Or do what you have planned and run TEST throughout until you reach your desired goals
in my opinion id rather see a EPI/Hdrol rathwer then SD.
03-19-2010, 01:39 PM
03-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Beta-Receptor down regulation shouldn't be an issue with the two week off period and use of ketotifen. If i'm wrong correct me...
Yeah i'm not ready to inject test. I'll stick to the designers for now. I haven't ran h-drol yet but probably will in the future. Believe me had I already ran Hdrol I would hands down be running HD/Epi or HD/SD. But I have no idea how i'll respond to Hdrol so i'll want to run it solo to see what happens.
I just think SD will do a great job of helping me lean up. It's fast acting and will help me preserve muscle while being in a caloric deficit and might even help me put on some muscle as well.
Any thoughts on the T3?
03-19-2010, 02:25 PM
EOD with clen and keto on the off days will most certainly work better given the half life of clen is 35 hrs
in terms of SD, most of the gains and what not come from glycogen supercompensation and what muscle do you thinkg your really building in 14 days, also brand of SD really matters from my experience and many others, S-drol by fast action was AMAZING mdrol, nothing. Just personal experience.
run longer increase the chance of decent muscle growth by lifting and using anabolics you increase muscular IGF1 content ,
i think it would be very beneficial to run a low dose test with it if you do run it like you do
with t3 i see no reason exceeding 50mcg,
also if you dont wanna inject look into dermacrine,
03-19-2010, 02:30 PM
03-19-2010, 02:36 PM
I'll probably use Mdrol or SD-LV
"A" days - SD + Ketotifen
"B" days - Clen/T3/Eviscerate
I could have swore i read somewhere that ketotifen on the same day as clen is bad news.
Run this for 6 weeks? Or could I push it out to 8?
03-19-2010, 03:13 PM
What are you goals with this?
I ask as honestly Id rather just up my cardio to get ripped seeing as we always bulk back up anyway and you wont be ripped forever so risking my thyroid seems nuts to me.
03-19-2010, 03:15 PM
03-19-2010, 03:31 PM
Really I just want to unsheathe what i've been building on for the last year. I'm tired of feeling fat.
What makes you think i'm risking my thyroid?
03-19-2010, 03:44 PM
I've always read things like this,
Other then things like this you would be good to go, get ripped man and tell me all about it.Clenbuterol can be taken to a higher level of potency by adding the T3 Cytomel to your regimen. As with Clenbuterol, T3 Cytomel should not be taken for long periods of time with no breaks in-between. It shouldn’t be used for more than any three week stretch, or else you risk a permanent thyroid insufficiency. After a three week course you should stop for at least three weeks. Since it can have an effect on thyroid function, a check with a physician is highly recommended to ensure your thyroids are healthy to start with; before beginning Clenbuterol and T3 Cytomel usage.
03-19-2010, 03:50 PM
A Great Overview of T3...and to a lesser degree, T2 and T4
That, and i'm not going to be using it every day. Just EOD.
03-19-2010, 05:40 PM
You've got me thinking about this T3 you speak of sir. Your in may I'll be in April so you can follow my lead.
03-19-2010, 06:04 PM
As I've stated in other threads, I run T3 every day. I have bloodwork to prove that you'll be fine...there are studies that show heavy Cytomel usage for years and then the patients get off and their thyroids return to where they were before they started...
Run your SD as a pulse...run no more than 50mcg of T3 and work up on the dosage with clen.
After six weeks you'll be thanking me. (Assuming your diet is spot on)...
03-19-2010, 06:38 PM
03-19-2010, 06:42 PM
So here's what i'm going to run (as I stated prior).....
Cycle Assist the entire time
A Day - SD + Ketotifen before bed
B Day - Clen/T3/Eviscerate
and maybe some kind of OTC fat burner like OEP or Lipo 6x to help prevent any unwanted rebound. I'll still be doing cardio and eating as I did on cycle.
Should be crazy!
03-19-2010, 06:51 PM
03-19-2010, 11:21 PM
03-20-2010, 12:43 AM
03-24-2010, 03:17 PM
Question guys; my T3 comes in a spray bottle and says 100mcgs/60ml. So I'm wondering if that means every spray is 100mcgs meaning it would be way to much for my experiment for my science lab class?
03-24-2010, 04:25 PM
03-24-2010, 04:27 PM
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