Tren differences & what with it?
- 03-17-2010, 03:49 AM
Tren differences & what with it?
whats the difference between Tren xtreme, Trenadrol, and Tren 75? The impression ive gotten is that Tren 75 is a more potent and superior version than the rest. I dont know though.
Also what should be taken with Tren.. Ive read that Tren does not require a anti estrogen? but know of people who have used Nolvadex anyway. Id just be running 1, 4 week cycle so any side effects I need to worry about?
Ill be taking Milk thistle during the cycle for blood pressure. Ive heard of hair loss too so any suggestions for that?
Height - 6 ft 1
Weight - 190 pounds
- 03-17-2010, 06:23 AM
Milk thistle is for your liver, hawthorn berry helps moderate blood pressure. Theres a good sticky thread at the top of this forum about hair loss.
03-17-2010, 10:43 PM
oh yea my bad. im taking fenugreek seeds for BP and milk thistle for the liver. and k thanks. but do you know if there is a significant difference between tren extreme, trenadrol, and tren 75?
Also, is nolva to be ran during and after the cycle? ive heard that a test is needed during.
03-17-2010, 11:01 PM
03-18-2010, 02:18 AM
yes. not where I orignally found it but thats the exact same one. do you have any answers or suggestions for me?
03-18-2010, 02:54 AM
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03-18-2010, 04:34 AM
whats the diffenece betwen the 2 compounds 19 nor and estra 4,9 diene they both look similiar but start different like x-tren and pheramass stack tren???
03-18-2010, 06:49 AM
glad thats not where i was looking then..know of any good legit sites than? and what!! i thought nolva was an anti estrogen and the whole point of it was to reduce gyno ?
03-18-2010, 05:33 PM
It's not an anti-estrogen, it just inhibits estrogen to binding to receptors in your breasts. Your estrogen levels stay the same, but the SERM prevents/reverses gyno. SERMs may actually increase estrogen through aromatase. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to spread around any false info.
BTW, can't ask for sources.
03-18-2010, 05:45 PM
03-18-2010, 08:24 PM
Tren 75 "Finabolan" Not sure of what is in it, but most tren compounds were a 19 Nor, AKA Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione AKA 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione.
All the same and banned as of 01/04/10
As far as buying them online. I would not trust it. More then likely junk, and a waste of cash. I have seen that tren 75 going for close to $100. That's nuts!
If you do have left over pre ban tren there are some sides that can come up. Check my log from last year. There is a chance you will run into some prolactin side fx.
As I did.
03-18-2010, 10:25 PM
03-18-2010, 10:36 PM
ive done tons of research man and it always leads to me same conclusion.. should i use nolva or clomid for tren? do i need a test? everyone has different opinions and answers so its confusing as ****.. i have a friend who ran tren and he used toco-8 and sustain alpha for pct. but what about gyno?
ill also have a liver, prostate, blood pressure, and maybe joint supplements involved in the cycle as well.
03-18-2010, 10:46 PM
Tren doesn't aromatize. Any "gyno" you get from tren will be progesterone related. Nolva or clomid is fine for PCT, but never ON cycle as a gyno prevention.
03-20-2010, 07:20 AM
03-20-2010, 04:27 PM
alright well i think im going to take alpha sustain and toco-8 for pct and if i see signs of gyno ill get a anti estrogen... think thatd be ok?
03-20-2010, 04:37 PM
clomid the pct for tren...but if u don'tknow that...put the tren away for awhile and research until your ready
03-20-2010, 05:08 PM
03-20-2010, 06:32 PM
03-20-2010, 06:48 PM
03-20-2010, 10:15 PM
Sustain 0/0/1/1/1/1 Or a different natty Test Booster
Toco-8 thru cycle and into PCT
Cort COntrol Optional I.E. X-lean, reduce XT, Suppress C, Lean FX
03-20-2010, 11:10 PM
when ive researched im yet to hear anything bad about the 2 however with nolva and clomid everyone has different opinions.
03-20-2010, 11:12 PM
03-20-2010, 11:42 PM
Sustain alpha is a test/libido booster. clomid and sustain is fine but sustain with no serm=fail, tits, loss of gains, no boners etc.
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