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  1. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    keeping ur gains is the trick
    yeah i know ...will take the correct pct and then also still lift heavy and keep protein above 200 ..

    and definetly is the trick to keep them. but will do my best


    any tips or suggestions appreciated

  2. newbie2bb
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    review of animal flex


    Not sure if i posted this before but here u go



    Review of animal flex

    Ok back ground . i had a shoulder that due to abuse was dislocated twice and almost had to have surgery on it . now this sucked cause i had to goto physical theropy for almost 4 months to get it back (hence why my lifts are huge ) but always would have cracking and rubbing in my shoulders. yeah pain is part of growing and i had learned to live with it . well because i am not twenty i also began to experience knee's that would get sore and kinda over all suck squating and gettin up and down began to be a chore. so u can imagin it all came mostly from lifting heavy for several months.

    now add to the top of it i am doing two methoyls and that for sure is going to dry you out totally.


    I had choices of animal flex and orange triad. first chioce was orange triad due to the fact i was already take pills like a mad man. but i went to store and didnt have it so i was like next best thing is animal flex.

    well in less than a week i wanna say i have no regrets at all . I now recommend this product bar none. i have zero shoulder pain and also zero knee pain. yes i realize i am doing fish oil too but i also have been doing that for years. but must say that the animal flex i would have never imagined doing military press and not giving a F . and value wise ..its 44.00 at the store (so i am sure you can get it cheaper online) . and it last for 44 days so extremely worth the value ..never leave home without it and also will never not take nothing else but this
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  3. I have always had joint issues especially when on a ph cycle. I have thought about giving flex a try, sounds like it's working great for you. Might have to order some up.
  4. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by sw bill View Post
    I have always had joint issues especially when on a ph cycle. I have thought about giving flex a try, sounds like it's working great for you. Might have to order some up.
    1.00 a day u cant beat it ....last 44 days ...

    no mights...cause joints will catch up to u ..so preventive is better than recovery ..

    sorry misquoted price its 33.00 so less than a dollar a day ..u better ...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    1.00 a day u cant beat it ....last 44 days ...

    no mights...cause joints will catch up to u ..so preventive is better than recovery ..

    sorry misquoted price its 33.00 so less than a dollar a day ..u better ...
    $18.95 on line lifesaver
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  6. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    $18.95 on line lifesaver

    dayum i got ripp'd off oh well . will have to find that website ..

  7. Good log so far, I'm slowly switching to Animal products myself so far I have animal pm and cuts and will be getting the other products next month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    Good log so far, I'm slowly switching to Animal products myself so far I have animal pm and cuts and will be getting the other products next month.

    yeah let me know about the animal cuts ....and where is ur log i feel i should be following urs

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    There is no increase in test while on SD or any other aas except if u inject test or take 4AD. If anything there will be a shutdown of test production because you are now supplying an exogenous horomone. But u can also get the release of bound test which can be converted to estrogen. It's a complicated process of how aas and homones work in the body. You have many factors that can influence gains and side effects.
    How exactly do they build muscle? Any links i can read up on, very curious
    thanks
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  10. newbie2bb
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    new format ..not going to include warm ups ...


    decided not to make warm up list. lets face it we all wanna know results. However i am doing warm up sets as ramping weight up. usually 5 sets of 5 each set increasing in weight

    Barbell Bench Press (chest)
    work-sets
    3x5= 140 pounds (went down a little didnt feel it for some reason )(go up)

    Squats Barbell (quads)
    work-sets
    3x5=200 pounds (go up)

    Overhead Press Barbell (shoulders)
    work-sets
    3x5=1x5=110 pounds , 1x4=110 pounds, 1x5=100 pounds (focusing on form)
    (stay )
    Barbell Row (Back)
    work-sets
    3x5=1x5=125 pounds, 2x120 pounds (stay)

    Deadlifts Barbell (Hamstrings)
    worksets
    2x5=160
    1x5=200
    1x5=225 pounds (go up )

    Dips (triceps)
    worksets
    2x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @5(22 pounds)=2x5
    1x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @4(16 pounds)=1x5 and spent (stay)

    E-z curl Barbell curl (biceps)
    work-sets
    3x5=70 pounds (go up)

    Seated calf raises (calves)
    3xfailure=1x5=125,2x4=120 pounds (stay)

    So i learned tonight i am def a morning person . i felt very blah doing the first half of work out then pumped up the last. Average time of workout is about 1 hour 10 min, longer today cause had to wait for machines. But no more nights gotta train myself bed sooner. but all and all good day lifting. I will say Dips made me spent cause i tried to eventually make just my bodyweight. almost there. Progression is the key and its happening so no complaints here.
    Decided will start cardio next week on non lifting days. In the am on empty stomach so i can lose some fat around the tum tum.
  11. newbie2bb
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    week 2 day 1 of 4 week cycle


    Barbell Bench Press (chest)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5==140
    2x5=130 ( stay,kinda fustrated cant seem to go up )

    Squats Barbell (quads)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5= 210 pounds (stay, shew go it !!)

    Overhead Press Barbell (shoulders)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5=110 pounds
    1x3=110 pounds
    1x5=100 pounds (stay)

    Barbell Row (Back)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5=125 pounds (stay)

    Deadlifts Barbell (Hamstrings)
    worksets
    2x5=135
    1x5=170
    1x5=200 pounds (stay, crazy but couldnt lift the bar oh well)

    Dips (triceps)
    worksets
    2x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @5(28 pounds)=2x5
    1x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @4(22 pounds)=1x5 (stay)

    E-z curl Barbell curl (biceps)
    work-sets
    3x5=80 pounds (stay, loved this !!)

    Seated calf raises (calves)
    work sets 3xfailure
    1x9=125
    1x5=125
    1x7=125 pounds (stay)

    Feeling good actually today . workout last longer than i imagined but oh well ..just went it there and did it . but kinda bumm'd about bench but then again im not patience when it comes to wait . of course leave it to my microwave generation ..gen x .. lol but i must remember what yoda would say


    "Much to learn, still you have." -- master yoda


    so starting march 15th ..weighed in at 165 pounds
    march 22nd...weighed in at 170 pounds

    So i am up in pounds 5 pounds and dont see anything as far as out of wack body comp wise adn jeans still fitting so all good . So will up calories just a bit to keep the gains coming ...

    sound good?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    Barbell Bench Press (chest)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5==140
    2x5=130 ( stay,kinda fustrated cant seem to go up )

    Squats Barbell (quads)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5= 210 pounds (stay, shew go it !!)

    Overhead Press Barbell (shoulders)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5=110 pounds
    1x3=110 pounds
    1x5=100 pounds (stay)

    Barbell Row (Back)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5=125 pounds (stay)

    Deadlifts Barbell (Hamstrings)
    worksets
    2x5=135
    1x5=170
    1x5=200 pounds (stay, crazy but couldnt lift the bar oh well)

    Dips (triceps)
    worksets
    2x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @5(28 pounds)=2x5
    1x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @4(22 pounds)=1x5 (stay)

    E-z curl Barbell curl (biceps)
    work-sets
    3x5=80 pounds (stay, loved this !!)

    Seated calf raises (calves)
    work sets 3xfailure
    1x9=125
    1x5=125
    1x7=125 pounds (stay)

    Feeling good actually today . workout last longer than i imagined but oh well ..just went it there and did it . but kinda bumm'd about bench but then again im not patience when it comes to wait . of course leave it to my microwave generation ..gen x .. lol but i must remember what yoda would say


    "Much to learn, still you have." -- master yoda


    so starting march 15th ..weighed in at 165 pounds
    march 22nd...weighed in at 170 pounds

    So i am up in pounds 5 pounds and dont see anything as far as out of wack body comp wise adn jeans still fitting so all good . So will up calories just a bit to keep the gains coming ...

    sound good?
    Yes... Increase the calories
    Eat clean, piss dirty

  13. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    Barbell Bench Press (chest)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5==140
    2x5=130 ( stay,kinda fustrated cant seem to go up )

    Squats Barbell (quads)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5= 210 pounds (stay, shew go it !!)

    Overhead Press Barbell (shoulders)
    work-sets 3x5
    1x5=110 pounds
    1x3=110 pounds
    1x5=100 pounds (stay)

    Barbell Row (Back)
    work-sets 3x5
    3x5=125 pounds (stay)

    Deadlifts Barbell (Hamstrings)
    worksets
    2x5=135
    1x5=170
    1x5=200 pounds (stay, crazy but couldnt lift the bar oh well)

    Dips (triceps)
    worksets
    2x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @5(28 pounds)=2x5
    1x5=(had to do with assisted machine) @4(22 pounds)=1x5 (stay)

    E-z curl Barbell curl (biceps)
    work-sets
    3x5=80 pounds (stay, loved this !!)

    Seated calf raises (calves)
    work sets 3xfailure
    1x9=125
    1x5=125
    1x7=125 pounds (stay)

    Feeling good actually today . workout last longer than i imagined but oh well ..just went it there and did it . but kinda bumm'd about bench but then again im not patience when it comes to wait . of course leave it to my microwave generation ..gen x .. lol but i must remember what yoda would say


    "Much to learn, still you have." -- master yoda


    so starting march 15th ..weighed in at 165 pounds
    march 22nd...weighed in at 170 pounds

    So i am up in pounds 5 pounds and dont see anything as far as out of wack body comp wise adn jeans still fitting so all good . So will up calories just a bit to keep the gains coming ...

    sound good?
    for those following please put what day your on each and every post, definitely help to see where you are in the cycle

    thanks
    Eat clean, piss dirty
  14. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    for those following please put what day your on each and every post, definitely help to see where you are in the cycle

    thanks
    ok will do editing now

  15. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    ok will do editing now
    certainly would never have advised you doing this cycle but **** it you on it now and you are keeping a nice log, might as well see if there is anything we can do to help along the way
    Eat clean, piss dirty

  16. Why are using such a low rep range? Are u doing a whole body workout? If so how often a wk u workout? I think we need to make serious changes in your workout split.

    Also if u are eating what u posted you def should be gaining more in weight and strength.
  17. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    certainly would never have advised you doing this cycle but **** it you on it now and you are keeping a nice log, might as well see if there is anything we can do to help along the way
    thanks i appreciate that . always a learner
  18. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    Why are using such a low rep range? Are u doing a whole body workout? If so how often a wk u workout? I think we need to make serious changes in your workout split.

    Also if u are eating what u posted you def should be gaining more in weight and strength.
    doing low rep range to make sure i pound it hard with weights for biggest bang for the buck. i work out 3 times a week. the whole set up is in beginning of log. I am eating what i am posting on diet. and i did go up in strength however with the weights i am still pushing it little by little now . will be increasing the calories thank u

  19. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    doing low rep range to make sure i pound it hard with weights for biggest bang for the buck. i work out 3 times a week. the whole set up is in beginning of log. I am eating what i am posting on diet. and i did go up in strength however with the weights i am still pushing it little by little now . will be increasing the calories thank u
    So you are training for strength I take it, am I correct?
  20. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    So you are training for strength I take it, am I correct?
    yes for strength and over all build composition wise

    eating big ...lifting big = gettin big

  21. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    yes for strength and over all build composition wise

    eating big ...lifting big = gettin big
    Low reps are not the best rep range to induce muscle hypertrophy. It is more come to fund the best grow at 8-12 rep range. Often parts need 15 or even 20 reps. Throwing around heavy weight for 3 weights isn't lifting big. Look at Ronnie he would grab 200lbs DB and still rep out 10. You want maximal weight so failure is reached around your rep range. There often program much like CAMP training that are designed around different rep ranges to try and axhieve the maximal results. Even with DC training you my rest pause 7/4/1 but that's still 12 reps total. See my point?

  22. The beauty of steroids is that they aid in the recovery time dramtically and enable longer heavier hessions with quicker recovery. So in this regard it is important to get the most out of each session in the limited time that you are on cycle. Which let's face it is just the last 3 weeks. To effectivly do that I am a big fan of working out 6 days a weeks balls to the wall and dedicated days to chest and back. Last cycle I really focused on chest, I worked out chest twicw a week for 90 minutes each time and I put 60lb on my bench. Pound that body part until you can't move, its only for 3 weeks and the results are worth the blood sweat and tears.
  23. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftingstud View Post
    Low reps are not the best rep range to induce muscle hypertrophy. It is more come to fund the best grow at 8-12 rep range. Often parts need 15 or even 20 reps. Throwing around heavy weight for 3 weights isn't lifting big. Look at Ronnie he would grab 200lbs DB and still rep out 10. You want maximal weight so failure is reached around your rep range. There often program much like CAMP training that are designed around different rep ranges to try and axhieve the maximal results. Even with DC training you my rest pause 7/4/1 but that's still 12 reps total. See my point?
    absolutely i do see ur point. however right now i am focusing on a base before adding accessories. I already have been flamed for weights being so low so i will stick with the compounds until i gain respect from myself and others of the foundation . but i do see ur piont. my training loosely based on rippetoe ...if havent noticed.
  24. newbie2bb
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    The beauty of steroids is that they aid in the recovery time dramtically and enable longer heavier hessions with quicker recovery. So in this regard it is important to get the most out of each session in the limited time that you are on cycle. Which let's face it is just the last 3 weeks. To effectivly do that I am a big fan of working out 6 days a weeks balls to the wall and dedicated days to chest and back. Last cycle I really focused on chest, I worked out chest twicw a week for 90 minutes each time and I put 60lb on my bench. Pound that body part until you can't move, its only for 3 weeks and the results are worth the blood sweat and tears.

    never thought of it that way. might on next cycle but will be conservative on this . as its my first. 2nd cycle will go more balls to the walls. again im going for foundation right now . and g'dang i eat and eat and eat lol

    also whole reason i am doing 3 full body workout routines so i can have best of both worlds hitting body part 3x a week rest 4 days to recover

  25. Quote Originally Posted by newbie2bb View Post
    never thought of it that way. might on next cycle but will be conservative on this . as its my first. 2nd cycle will go more balls to the walls. again im going for foundation right now . and g'dang i eat and eat and eat lol

    also whole reason i am doing 3 full body workout routines so i can have best of both worlds hitting body part 3x a week rest 4 days to recover
    Not sure if u mentioned or not but where are you working out? local gym? if so do you have a workout partner? Really help having a spotter especially when it comes to chest, like to see you get some negatives and forced reps in there. Blast those muscles for maximum growth
    Eat clean, piss dirty
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