Steppin into the dark side...
- 03-06-2010, 06:09 PM
Steppin into the dark side...
So I decided to say screw PH/DS, I'm ready for some injections in the arse Thing is, I'm just in the process of researching and have yet to get the stuff (still hesitant on which source to trust). Right now, the cycle I wanna run is this:
Test e: 1-10wk 250mg twice every week (500)
Mdrol: Kickstart 20mg 1-3wk
PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10
Reversitol v1: 3/2/2/1
1. Is my cycle, PCT in check?
2. Are the xtra stuff like hCG, letro on cycle, etc, really necessary?
- 03-06-2010, 06:46 PM
- 03-06-2010, 07:15 PM
03-06-2010, 07:29 PM
03-06-2010, 07:30 PM
Are you prone to Gyno??
03-06-2010, 07:57 PM
2. Run hCG 250iu every 3-4 days to keep your balls from shrinking. There is evidence that suggest running hCG post cycle can delay recovery.
Other than that, you might want to frontload the Tamox on day 1 of PCT. I like to take 4-6 days worth on the first day to get blood levels up quickly.
03-06-2010, 08:02 PM
You need to run hcg on cycle, or you risk full recovery of natty test levels after pct, plus it keeps your balls from shrinking, that alone would be enough for me
03-06-2010, 08:03 PM
I meant you risk not fully recovering test levels
03-06-2010, 08:06 PM
I always run hcg with pct and i fully recover quickly.And I'm with bigchourico on only using an ai if needed.
03-06-2010, 08:51 PM
A little extra estrogen is not totally a bad thing.
03-06-2010, 09:01 PM
03-06-2010, 09:10 PM
03-07-2010, 05:02 AM
So what I'm gettin outta this is that hCG is a must while adex doesn't really need to be used. I kno test converts easily to estrogen. That's what I'm worried about. Thing is tho how much estrogen? Like above poster said, a lil estro is nice strength wise. I just dont want estrogen out the butt
03-07-2010, 10:09 AM
At minimum you should have an AI on hand in case you decide to use it, especially if you start showing early signs of possible gyno (such as itchy/puffy nipples).
03-07-2010, 04:06 PM
03-07-2010, 04:17 PM
03-07-2010, 08:18 PM
adex .25mg E3D or ED? I've read logs where ppl would run it EOD or E3D b/c it can kill your gains, and some logs ppl would run it ED, which IMHO think it's overkill.
Wk 1-3 CEL's Mdrol: 10/20/20
Wk 1-10 Test e: 500mg/wk
Wk 1-10 Adex: 0.25mg E3D
Wk 12-16 Nolvadex: 30/20/20/10mg
Wk 12-16 hCG: Don't know the dose scheme of this yet
^^^^ I feel like this is the first cycle I will run. Obviously more research, but thnx to yall I feel I've learned more and more I come back to my thread (specifically to Libertian and bigchourico)
Any input to my question and cycle above?
03-07-2010, 08:25 PM
03-07-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't touch the ai unless I need it. If you can't stand the bloat, or if shyt hits the fan and u have signs of gyno then integrate the ai in. That's just how I roll
03-07-2010, 08:30 PM
03-07-2010, 08:38 PM
03-07-2010, 08:44 PM
03-07-2010, 09:41 PM
Sorry for the late replies. BigC, I don't wanna say anything regarding gyno (superstitious ), but I wasn't a fat kid when I hit pubert so no pubertal gyno, and haven't really had a problem after my last cycle w/ CEL's Hdrol.
Harry M, I agree w/ the whole experience thing and I def am not the type of guy to take adex on cycle. I hate introducing more exogenous material/chemicals/whatever than necessary, that's why I'm asking. I def will have it on hand, but if I don't need it at all, I'll be a happy camper.
It's just all the logs I've read, ppl have had gyno. Probably a good 80% of them do. And from what I've read, ppl say test converts easily to estro and make it sound like gyno is inevitable w/o an ai. Just need some clarification on all of this
03-07-2010, 10:19 PM
If your really worried or stressed about getting Gyno. You could do what you were posting earlier and take the .25 every third day to play it safe.. You'll still get big.... And I don't want you coming back here and blaming me if you do get Gyno...LOL
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