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i'm 33 and just started back working out again. 2 years ago i hurt my back and wrist on the job. i've gained weight around the gut and i feel pretty weak lifting light weight. i think my bench max is 200 lbs. i dont wanna rush myself and get hurt, but i need a little edge to get me going. problem is... i dont like stimulants at all. havent drank caffiene in 8 years. cant stand my blood pressure going up and felling wired. a few questions... do anabolical meds make you feel wired or high strung... like you can't sleep at night or can't sit still. i heard when on your first cycle you feel like you got the flu and all you wanna do is eat. thanx for any info. i'm sure the comments and questions i posted sound pretty stupid
 
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i'm 33 and just started back working out again. 2 years ago i hurt my back and wrist on the job. i've gained weight around the gut and i feel pretty weak lifting light weight. i think my bench max is 200 lbs. i dont wanna rush myself and get hurt, but i need a little edge to get me going. problem is... i dont like stimulants at all. havent drank caffiene in 8 years. cant stand my blood pressure going up and felling wired. a few questions... do anabolical meds make you feel wired or high strung... like you can't sleep at night or can't sit still. i heard when on your first cycle you feel like you got the flu and all you wanna do is eat. thanx for any info. i'm sure the comments and questions i posted sound pretty stupid
You must be a very fat dwarf 4 11" 205lb. I see a bright future for you in midget porn

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You must be a very fat dwarf 4 11" 205lb. I see a bright future for you in midget porn

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wow... midget, huh? i guess this is how y'all treat newjacks. and... when is 5"11 midget material?
 
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wow... midget, huh? i guess this is how y'all treat newjacks. and... when is 5"11 midget material?
ok sorry... Now what was the question again? what do you mean by anabolic meds? what are you trying to achieve? loose the gut and @ the same time gain lean muscle mass yes?

A cycle can refer to pretty much anything, carbohydrates, stims, natty test , boosters, creatine, steroids etc but if you cant stand elevated blood pressure your kinda stuck with good old nutrition, the best of them all.

I assume however your referring to the use of performance enhancing drugs like PH's if thats the case you shold know right out of the gate your looking at elevated blood pressure
 
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ok sorry... Now what was the question again? what do you mean by anabolic meds? what are you trying to achieve? loose the gut and @ the same time gain lean muscle mass yes?

A cycle can refer to pretty much anything, carbohydrates, stims, natty test , boosters, creatine, steroids etc but if you cant stand elevated blood pressure your kinda stuck with good old nutrition, the best of them all.

I assume however your referring to the use of performance enhancing drugs like PH's if thats the case you shold know right out of the gate your looking at elevated blood pressure
appology accepted... yes, i was referring to steroids. i guess steroids are out of the question since it elevates blood pressure. are there any after market products that are good lean muscle mass that doesnt raise blood pressure? i noticed when i worked out last time that creatine adds a little water weight. my goals are to get strong, add muscle mass, and get rid of this gut
 
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appology accepted... yes, i was referring to steroids. i guess steroids are out of the question since it elevates blood pressure. are there any after market products that are good lean muscle mass that doesnt raise blood pressure? i noticed when i worked out last time that creatine adds a little water weight. my goals are to get strong, add muscle mass, and get rid of this gut
without knowing what your diet looks like its hard to stay but this is how i approach cutting whilst maintaing/gaining muscle mass

This plan is for slow fat loss whilst gaining muscle, lower the carbs if u want more dramatic weight loss but you will limit ur lean muscle and strenghth gains.

I use this diet after a bulk for exactly the above reason

The increased carbs timed around your WO should give you all the energy you require.

Eat 6/7 meals a day

go with a macro of 40p 40c 20f

Eat clean, all whole foods and make sure your eat good carbs brown rice pasta bread etc + lots of green veggies. Protein fish and chicken, fatty fish for your fat. Your gonna have to supp the wholw foods with shakes unless you work in a kitchen so gonna need, high quality whey protein powder fishoil/flaxseedoil and a good multi vit.

Timing of your meals is going to be critical too. Take a target weight and aim for 1.5g of protein per lb of your target weight and follow the 40 40 20 macro.

Try and eat every 2 hours where possible after 3 hours ur metabolism starts to slow down. Pre WO you should load up on some high GCI carbs to fuel your WO and post WO you need some simple carbs to deliver protein to your muscles. This will mean you are taking large proportion of ur carbs around your WO so u will have to adjust carbs down for other meals.

for you pre WO meal/shake 0.33 g carbs per lb of target weight halve that for the protein no fat

Cycle ur carbs on non WO days lower ur carbs to .75 -1g per lb of target weight

Cardio
For best fat loss and retention of muscle mass choose HIIT cardio best on an empty stomach first thing in the morn or alternatively after training
 
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without knowing what your diet looks like its hard to stay but this is how i approach cutting whilst maintaing/gaining muscle mass

This plan is for slow fat loss whilst gaining muscle, lower the carbs if u want more dramatic weight loss but you will limit ur lean muscle and strenghth gains.

I use this diet after a bulk for exactly the above reason

The increased carbs timed around your WO should give you all the energy you require.

Eat 6/7 meals a day

go with a macro of 40p 40c 20f

Eat clean, all whole foods and make sure your eat good carbs brown rice pasta bread etc + lots of green veggies. Protein fish and chicken, fatty fish for your fat. Your gonna have to supp the wholw foods with shakes unless you work in a kitchen so gonna need, high quality whey protein powder fishoil/flaxseedoil and a good multi vit.

Timing of your meals is going to be critical too. Take a target weight and aim for 1.5g of protein per lb of your target weight and follow the 40 40 20 macro.

Try and eat every 2 hours where possible after 3 hours ur metabolism starts to slow down. Pre WO you should load up on some high GCI carbs to fuel your WO and post WO you need some simple carbs to deliver protein to your muscles. This will mean you are taking large proportion of ur carbs around your WO so u will have to adjust carbs down for other meals.

for you pre WO meal/shake 0.33 g carbs per lb of target weight halve that for the protein no fat

Cycle ur carbs on non WO days lower ur carbs to .75 -1g per lb of target weight

Cardio
For best fat loss and retention of muscle mass choose HIIT cardio best on an empty stomach first thing in the morn or alternatively after training
thanx for the info. i'm pretty good with dieting. any suggestions on supplements? currently i'm using champion low carb protein, glutamine, and fish oills...
 
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thanx for the info. i'm pretty good with dieting. any suggestions on supplements? currently i'm using champion low carb protein, glutamine, and fish oills...
Id give creatine another shot make sure it creapure, also try a NO product check for stims some have caffeine. I just started using xpand xtreme pump love it that has 5g creatine in it. No Shotgun worked for me to0, re fat loss, do some research and make sure to supp BCAA and CLA in ur diet, will really help with fat loss
 
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Id give creatine another shot make sure it creapure, also try a NO product check for stims some have caffeine. I just started using xpand xtreme pump love it that has 5g creatine in it. No Shotgun worked for me to0, re fat loss, do some research and make sure to supp BCAA and CLA in ur diet, will really help with fat loss
i think all those supplements you posted jack your heart rate up. that xpand xtreme pump has a crap load of vitamin b. thats what they give rooster before a fight. vitamin b is a super energizer
 
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i think all those supplements you posted jack your heart rate up. that xpand xtreme pump has a crap load of vitamin b. thats what they give rooster before a fight. vitamin b is a super energizer
Yes...its a suggestion, maybe you could get a sample from Vit Shoppe or GNC see how you tolerate it if zero tolerance your gonna be pretty limited to anything outside jacking up ur carbs pre WO
 
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The forum is a little slow at night bro. But during the day you might get more help. Supplement wise for working out i would suggest maniac. It has a little bit of caffeine but not too much just a little buzz. anabolics i would not recommend.
Can i ask why you dont drink stimulants? if anything i would drink green tea. There is nothing wrong with green tea.
 

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thanx for the info. i'm pretty good with dieting. any suggestions on supplements? currently i'm using champion low carb protein, glutamine, and fish oills...
Obviously ur not good in the diet department.

Maybe add a fat burner. Cardo 4-5x wk. It tales time and hard work. There is no magic formula.
 
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man, you just started working out again. give your body some time to get back into the swing of things. taking an anabolic now when your body is unprepared for it would be running a massive risk for injury, with regards to connective muscles.

maybe a test booster is in order? T-911 is a very good one, and now 30 bucks at nutra.
 
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The forum is a little slow at night bro. But during the day you might get more help. Supplement wise for working out i would suggest maniac. It has a little bit of caffeine but not too much just a little buzz. anabolics i would not recommend.
Can i ask why you dont drink stimulants? if anything i would drink green tea. There is nothing wrong with green tea.
hmmm... i guess i dont take any kind of stimulants because i had a bad reaction to andro. remember that stuff you squirt in your mouth on the gum line? it jack my blood pressure super high, face and neck turned red as hell, shortness of breath... thought i was gonna have a heart attack. ever since then i want even drink a coke. i also had some bad experiences with hydroxycut... the old ephedrene formula. i guess im just a control freak. i hate taking something and having to wait out the effects. i like taking stuff where i feel normal... no effects from the supplement other than muscle growth.

i know... i'm weird
 

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Then go natty.... Everything has side effects.
 

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