using nolva or adex on cycle?

[ironaddict33]

i am a 22 yr old first time user. done alot of research on aas. mostly on actual gear not pct though.
5'10''
175 lbs
over 3 years lifting seriously.
finally got my diet down, always trained hard

i've decided that my first cycle is going to be a simple cycle of test cyp, preffered e but not available. considered taking winny at the end but thats another conversation, and unlikely i'll do this..
200-250 mg/wk (1-10)
clomid pct (12-15)

the question i have is what should i take while on cycle to prevent undesired sides without affecting results.. mostly gyno and testes problems!

i know that nolva is an estrogen receptor blocker and won't eliminate estrogen so this won't effect results and should prevent gyno. and adex actually eliminates 60-80% of estrogen, which i've heard hinders results.
i've seen so much info that says to take these on cycle and so many saying not to touch them unless you see sides first. i just want to prevent as many sides as possible. since this is my first cycle idk how my body will respond, even thou this is not a big cycle.

I was just wanting one of the knowlegable users on here to possibly help me out... i'd appreciate any help

 

[walker11]

honestly, at 22 and training for ONLY 3 years, you are NOT ready for aas. if you have your diet down like you say you do and have a solid routine then you should still be making great gains. but if you're hell bent on using, then i'de say use 400 mg./week of test e or c for 8 weeks, then run nolva at 40/40/20/20 for your pct. you shouldn't need to run anything except for cycle assist (pre-load 2 weeks in advance) while on becuase 400 mg/week isn't that high of a dose.

 

[ironaddict33]

well i've been lifting for over 5 years but i didn't have solid routines and form etc down the first yr or so
yes i've heard i'm too young many times and have not made my mind up 100% i'm going to yet, but i'm planning on it.
but your saying i shouldn't have to take anything on cycle? just have it in case of sides?

 

[walker11]

you shouldn't have to take anything while on except for the cycle assist. but durring your pct you will need nolva and creatine would be a good idea.

 

[unc21]

Keep an AI on had definitely, just in case. And run the test cyp for 12 weeks.

 

[ironaddict33]

yea i was planning on clomid and considering nolva too for pct
i'm actually on creatine now but don't respond great to it, why would you suggest i would after my cycle?

yes i have got some armidex just in case but i was wondering if i should run a low dose of .5mg eod during my cycle.. and i only have enough cyp for 10 weeks at 200mg/wk

 

[ironaddict33]

also on a sidenote, i was going to run clomide pct and possibly nolva also but i was told by a friend to just run nolva 40/30/20/20
anyone have and opinion about this?

 

[walker11]

yea i was planning on clomid and considering nolva too for pct
i'm actually on creatine now but don't respond great to it, why would you suggest i would after my cycle?

yes i have got some armidex just in case but i was wondering if i should run a low dose of .5mg eod during my cycle.. and i only have enough cyp for 10 weeks at 200mg/wk

the creatine will help keep your muscles hydrated and keep some extra size on you when you go off.

 

[ironaddict33]

ohh ok, never thought about it like that.. that actually sounds like a great idea.. that is why i was planning on taking clomid pct. heard its supposed to help you keep more of your gains