Me and My Methyl Big-D
- 04-09-2004, 07:12 PM
Me and My Methyl Big-D
Last Friday was 8 days into an accurately dosed batch of M-Dien from www.designersupps.com at 5mg. Pumps in the gym are great, also there is a pumped feeling in my arms just about 24/7. My delts are definitely more pronounced too. I have since bumped the dose to 7mg.
AST 84; ALT 77; LDH 234; GGT 13; ALP 65; ALB 3.9; Cholesterol 98; HDL 31.2; Testosterone 93.68; LH 3.00; Progesterone 0.12; Prolactin 11.48; FSH 1.07; Cortisol 5.57; Estradiol 18.96
TBIL and DBIL were not run due to machine problems.
I've actually been running the M-Dien for longer but it was the flavored version that fell out of solution. A female friend of mine saw me in a tank-top the other day and said "Oh my God, you're getting bigger!"
I also started Pro-Sust from www.designersupps.com last Friday. 3cc's (1200mg) frontload and 1cc (400mg) EOD thereafter. I am awaiting lab results for today, they should be in momentarily.
Like I stated earlier the M-Dien is being provided to me for testing by Sldge at www.designersupps.com
- 04-09-2004, 07:15 PM
- 04-09-2004, 07:25 PM
04-09-2004, 07:40 PM
Today: 15 days total on this batch, 8 days at 5mg, 7 days at 7mg. 8 days on Pro-Sust.
AST 99; ALT 103; LDH 277; GGT 12; ALP 62; TBIL 1.4; DBIL 0.2; ALB 4.1; Cholesterol 95; HDL 29.2; LH 0.07; FSH 0.00; Progesterone 0.53; Prolactin 15.23; Cortisol 16.40; Now for the fun part Testosterone 1068.17; Estradiol 93.71
I'm also starting Tri-Max (triatricol) from www.customnutritionwarehouse.com tomorrow or Monday, so here's the baselines for my thyroid hormones: TSH 1.43; T3 142.86; T4 6.9; Free T4 1.30
My Estradiol is pretty high, and I have some Letro/Finasteride combo from Lion. How high should I let it go before I start on some?
04-09-2004, 07:57 PM
wow, you've really pushed up the dosage there. i guess that may be the reason why M-dien did nothing for me @2-3mg for 15 days. anyhow, keep up the great job!
04-09-2004, 08:09 PM
Supersoldier.........What was your weight before you started and what is it now? And what does your diet look like?
04-09-2004, 08:15 PM
Weight before I started was around 225, about 223 now. I've definitely lost a decent amount of bodyfat, and gained some muscle. My arms are noticeably bigger and I'm a lot more cut. Diet is around 3000-3200 cal/day. Carbs only pre, during, and post-workout. 400-500g protein/day.Originally Posted by supermanstanley
04-09-2004, 08:23 PM
04-09-2004, 08:28 PM
I have a new anti e I am looking into, I hope to have a sample next week or so, maybe we can see how well it works. Dont anyone email, I am only getting a couple grams and I am not releasing any info on it yet.
That test level is nice!!!
04-09-2004, 08:48 PM
Just wondering if this anti e will be available after the ban and is it correct to assume it would work well for PCT?Originally Posted by Designer Supps
04-09-2004, 08:50 PM
I am hoping it will last through the ban, if the others make it this should. I have no idea how it will go for PCT, I need to do a lot more research. It may end up being to expensive, I have a couple others though so we will see.
04-10-2004, 05:25 AM
Thanks. I was just wondering. It would be nice to be able to buy PCT stuff in powder form too. I don't know of any place that offers stuff like that.(hint,hint)
04-10-2004, 08:23 AM
04-10-2004, 09:18 AM
How have your strength increases been on the compact lifts. (Becnh, Squat, Military, Deadlift, etc.)Originally Posted by supersoldier
04-10-2004, 01:38 PM
04-10-2004, 02:43 PM
I see your estradoil is very high, now that should not be a problem gyno wise if you are not using anything else that aromitizes correct?
I am very prone to gyno, and just seeing a vial of test makes my tits itch and swell,lol.
But like I said if you took it by itself you'd be fine(gyno wise), just like m-1t correct.
04-10-2004, 04:34 PM
04-10-2004, 04:37 PM
The estradiol and the aromitization is from the 1600mg+/week 4AD I'm shooting. There shouldn't be a problem with gyno with M-Dien itself, just like gyno shouldn't be an issue with M1T itself. SHOULDN'T being the key word. There is always a chance for gyno with any androgen, though.Originally Posted by cjm8232
04-10-2004, 05:14 PM
04-10-2004, 06:35 PM
I thought someone posted that you should not stack Methyl-Dien w/ 4-ad. I don't recall the reason. Wassup w/ that?
04-10-2004, 06:52 PM
It was because M-Dien was thought to have pregesterone related sides, but seeing that my progesterone was so low while on it, I decided to go for it.Originally Posted by HUGE
04-10-2004, 07:29 PM
I've been doing 6mg/day stacked with 4-Derm(7 squirts/day). I like it better than fina 4AD transdermal and no sides at all. Best cycle I've had in a year.Originally Posted by supersoldier
04-10-2004, 07:36 PM
6mg/day??? everyone is really upping the dosage of M-dien looks like. no wonder it didn't work for me.Originally Posted by Lean One
04-10-2004, 07:42 PM
04-11-2004, 06:51 AM
Well, It has been my experience that the recomended dosages for most of these new methyls have been on the low side. I feel that is a good thing though. It allows those that are more experienced and know their bodies to slowly work up to an optimal dose. On the flip side, it keeps newbies from taking more than is necesary. I hardly think a first timer would need to run anywhere near 6mg/day to get great results from M-Dien.Originally Posted by lancelot
04-11-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Lean One
I agree, remember when i was testing this I started out at 250mcg per day and worked my way up. That is the key, when you get to know how well your body reacts with different compounds you can fine tune your cycle better. but if you just started out at 6mgs per day but 4 mgs would give the same results or slightly less with no sides then why the hell would you use 6.
On the other side if you dont do well on lower doses then you may need to use more then most, but that certainly dosent mean everyone should. so start low, increase as needed. It makes total sense to me.
It is also different for every compound, they are all different and all work differently when compared to each other. I do great on low doses of M5AA and M4OHN, i need really high doses of winny(150mg+ per day) and anavar (80mg+), so it just depends but I would have no idea if I didnt try different dosing.
04-11-2004, 07:19 PM
Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, but what is your inject pattern, eod or 2 times a week?
04-11-2004, 08:56 PM
04-11-2004, 10:14 PM
I plan on starting mine within the next couple of months, and was still undecided about # of injects a week...thanks
04-12-2004, 01:02 AM
I read about how it was theorized (is that a word? ) that 1-test Cyp while in the body acts more like a Prop, so I figured I may as well be safe and go with EOD. Plus injecting is so much fun Why would I want to rob myself of sticking a needle in myself two more times a week?Originally Posted by Jimmy_4
04-12-2004, 12:44 PM
bah.. good job.. although it would have been nice to see results from just M-dien :-/
how are the pro-sust injections? painful? how many mg?
looks it sust has been taken off the site
04-12-2004, 01:22 PM
yeah I took it off in hopes of doing 4 oht deca and m4oht. If i cant get any of those done I may bring it back out again.
04-12-2004, 02:16 PM
04-13-2004, 01:38 AM
Injections are totally painless. It's 400mg/ml and I do 1cc EOD. After reading the "Darting For The Pure Pleasure of It" thread (Darting for the pure pleasure of it!) I was inspired by bigpetefox to poke my left pec today. Thanks bigpete!Originally Posted by spoofy
04-13-2004, 02:07 AM
damn, never had the balls to do a pec shot before. I do have some 23g 5/8 pins that were never used, may have to try it. Howd it feel bro?
04-13-2004, 02:23 AM
Well I flexed it a little and pushed it down through the top (towards my feet, not my back), felt a little poke as it broke skin, but the rest was smooth. Didn't feel pushing the oil in at all. It was almost like a delt shot but required more force to push the needle in because the muscle is a little harder. Next up is the TricepOriginally Posted by surferdude26
04-13-2004, 02:29 AM
good to hear, will definately try it, definately seems to be a lot more convinient too. Thanks for the input man.Originally Posted by supersoldier
04-13-2004, 11:36 AM
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