- 01-28-2010, 02:29 AM
Starting up a 16-week test enanthate cycle, my first cycle in years. I've decided to try t-bol for the first time instead of d-bol. I'm running it for the first 4 weeks at 40mg/day. Just looking for some general info on it; when the effects will be felt, gains experienced, how long people have run it and at what dosages, etc.
By the way it's good to be back after a long time away, looks like the forum has grown a lot since i was last here.
- 01-28-2010, 07:53 AM
This is a slower acting steroid. When using Turinabol, weight, strength and muscle mass increases will not be overly dramatic; however, they will be of good quality. Turinabol also does not typically create risk for estrogenic side effects, so there is limited water retention or risk for gynecomastia. The user can obtain a hard look to their muscles due to limited water retention.
It is 17-alpha alkylated which means it can be toxic to the liver. Turinabol can also lower the clotting ability of blood.
Negative side effects are rare but can occur from cycles that are too long or high in dosage. Shutting off of one's own natural testosterone production and testicular tumors (extremely rare) are both side effects of such extreme cycles.
In studies done on male athletes that were given 10 mg OT/day over six weeks, no negative health effects or side effects were reported. It was also used in low doses to reduce the binding of SHBG to other steroids.(1) Oral Turinabol was found to have the ability to reduce SHBG and allow testosterone to be more readily used.
There was one case reported where a male experienced negative side effects from 5 years of using Oral Turinabol at a high dosage (2)(3). It was found to be effective at extremely high dosages by those looking to gain strength and mass, yet athletes looking to obtain gains more quickly and more proficiently in their game were very successful with lower doses of Oral Turinabol. Olympic level male Shot-putters were able to add 2.5-4m to their shot throws, 10-12m on their Discus throw, and 6-10m to their Hammer throws with in four years of training. Female athletes gained even more. One female athlete improved her throw from under 18m to over 20m (4).
Women experienced increased and more severe and sometimes intolerable side effects than male users. Although, sometimes the women were taking doses that surpassed the men's by almost double (5).
quick google search.
If you like D-bol, you will most likely enjoy this compound (assuming what you have is real). A couple UG brands were accussed of selling d-bol as t-bol.
01-28-2010, 03:22 PM
yeah i definitely googled it before i forked out the cash.. i'm quite certain its real, its made by a phamaceutical company that produces aas for medicinal use. couldn't find much in the way of personal experiences and such on google for some reason. thanks anyways.
02-01-2010, 12:45 AM
02-01-2010, 02:12 AM
02-01-2010, 09:51 AM
40-50mg is good..dont know if i would run it the first 4 weeks of cycle though..i used it several times in the past and loved it..small gains but solid no bloat etc..not to many companies make it so very hard to find..i ran it for 6-8 weeks with little to no sides but eveyone is different..reults dont show for a few weeks so if possible i would stretch it out longer then 4 weeks
02-04-2010, 03:11 AM
02-04-2010, 08:14 AM
02-04-2010, 08:55 AM
i would run it at the end of the cycle to lean out a bit. its very dry and you should not expect a lot from it, but there may be synergy between tbol and test but i'm not sure. you can compare it to hdol. hdrol is actually the ps to tbol....so its similar but not the exact same thing
02-04-2010, 06:01 PM
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02-05-2010, 01:26 AM
02-05-2010, 01:29 AM
02-05-2010, 06:28 AM
02-05-2010, 06:04 PM
tbol takes his time but at week 2 you will notice great muscle hardness pumps and vascularity.Slow lean gains.not the best kickstarter but a good steroid
02-05-2010, 07:28 PM
i love tbol; have used it probably 4 times...great for hardness and vascularity. it usually takes me 3 weeks before i get any real results though. i wouldnt use it as a kickstarter...i'd pick up some sdrol for the first 2-3 weeks to gain while the test kicks in, and then use the tbol for the last 6 weeks as you get used to the test (assuming the cycle is 10+ weeks)
hdrol is OK, but not as good as tbol, even at 100mg, IMHO.
02-08-2010, 06:59 PM
what about running it at 30mg/day for 5 weeks? would there be a big difference between 40mg and 30mg?
02-08-2010, 07:10 PM
I've used tbol also, good stuff, way stronger than hdrol.
40 will be enough to do it's job, thats what i ran it at, should of used 50 though. lol.
you could alway pick up some hdrol to add in with your tbol. take 30mg of tbol pre w/o/in the morning, and then 50mg of hd 8hrs later.
then the last week (as you'll only have enough tbol for 5 weeks at 30) use just the hd at 75mg.
or you can shoot for 30mg for 5 weeks, or 40 for 4.
w/e makes ya happy.
02-09-2010, 01:25 AM
i'm wondering what you guys consider "results" or "feeling it".... is this just regarding weight gain or strength gains? i'd be satisfied just feeling a little stronger and more pumped up during my workouts around week 2...honestly after week 2 even on a long ester like enanthate i start feeling like superman.
02-09-2010, 02:34 AM
let us know how u like it and how long it takes to kick start... im debating using 60-80mg for 5 weeks for my next cycle to kick start test e
02-09-2010, 01:17 PM
you should (the o.p.) most likely feel it after the first dosage, but most likely wont start seeing effects of the tbol until about week 3.
the good thing about tbol with test is it's strong binding to shbg, freeing up more test to be used. 40mg for 4 weeks should be good.
but next time get enough to run it higher for 6 weeks.
tbol is a low risk steroid, and i've even seen a study done on women who ran it at 10mg for 2 years str8, with no side effects. (obv we are running it way higher) but the risk shouldn't be a worry if your healthy. hell, if you were running tbol at 40mg by itself for 4 weeks, i'd even go as far as saying you could get by pct with a test booster/ai.
but anyhow, good luck, and if you've got good tbol, you should enjoy it.
02-09-2010, 11:04 PM
thanks for the help man, reps.
02-09-2010, 11:06 PM
02-10-2010, 01:27 AM
I started my tbol cycle about 2 weeks ago.
I've ran Tren and M-Drol cycles in the past and gained about 10-15 pounds in about 4-5 weeks on both cycles.
However, Tbol is moving much slower for me (to the point where Im questioning if it's even legit).
I did the first week at 20mg, and felt nothing. I bumped up to 40mg and Im at the end of the second week. I've gained maybe 1-2 lbs at most. But I do feel like my strength has gone up significantly. I also feel like my libido has risen (but it may be in my head).
I've been told the AAS is slow acting so Im excited to see how things will get now that Im entering my 3rd week. I also noticed im pumped throughout the day a little bit more.
02-10-2010, 03:26 AM
how much do you weigh.. you should be able to up your dose alot more... you need at least 50mg for it to really be worth it... bump up another 20 next week and see how that goes