What to expect from Test E and DBOL cycle??
- 01-26-2010, 03:07 AM
What to expect from Test E and DBOL cycle??
My last cycle consisted of 10 weeks of test enanthate alone at 500 a week. I put on 26 pounds in total and kept mostly all of it. In about a month it will be time for me to begin my new cycle which ive decided to be 10 weeks of test E, kick started with DBOL for 3 weeks...
I have a pretty lean build to begin with and i want to basically add the mass but dont want to look too fleshy. I know what to expect from test because ive taken this compound but im afraid the dbol may make me look like a water balloon....What kind of look can i expect from this cycle and how much more of an effect will the dbol have on the overall cycle?? any help would be great, ive searched various logs on the net but cant find a solid one with good pics so i hope i can get some help here!
- 01-26-2010, 03:15 AM
No clear cut answer. Dbol bloats me up alot but it is easily controlable with some arimidex or femera. What are you dosing the dbol at and how long?
01-26-2010, 03:26 AM
Why worry? Dbol has such a short active life that you can easily find the correct dosage (assuming you're using a liquid oral) without having to suffer through many side effects.
01-26-2010, 03:37 AM
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01-26-2010, 07:50 PM
I was 6'1 155 before and finished @ 181.....I know people will probably say I had so much naturally potential to gain etc. etc. but trust me i lifted for 3 years previously eating tons daily and tried very hard to put on mass and it was virtually impossible....regardless, its my life, my decisions and i am happy with the results so thats all that matter but this is what 26 pounds from test e @ 500 a week for 10 weeks can do! with proper pct ive only lost 3 pounds since...
01-27-2010, 02:40 AM
judging by the after pic it would also be good to know if you think dbol would make my frame too bulky or not, im just worried if itll change my shape negativly
01-27-2010, 03:25 AM
This is absurd. I'm out.
You're the kid that everyone complains and warns about on AAS boards (the guy who has no business using).
01-27-2010, 03:38 AM
and your complaining about it now..just because im not 200 pounds when i decided to start using its an issue?? some people naturally cannot get there and i am one of them...I trained hard, ate properly(day and night constantly) and lifted consistantly for a long time and could not get any solid gains, only got shape...
im here to learn like everyone else, if you have an opinion feel free to state it, you dont know my situation. Constructive criticism is great but to put someone down on an "aas board" whos looking for advice makes you worse than I.
01-27-2010, 06:54 AM
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01-27-2010, 11:09 PM
Sadly I gotta agree, you should be no where near AAS. You need to get yourself some weightgainer. Have 6-8 large meals and atleast 1-2 weight gainer shakes. At over 6 ft and only weighin 150lbs you had a huge way to go naturally before you even needed any assistance. Thats just my opinion, but hell what do I know Ive only been doing this for 6 years.
01-27-2010, 11:58 PM
01-28-2010, 12:00 AM
01-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Give the guy a little break. He doesn't look like **** in the second picture and it's obvious that he did gain weight; what does everybody always say: "If your diet and training is not on track then anabolics won't help you to gain any more weight." Well it's obvious that he did eat and train along with the Test.
I'm not saying he should have run the Test, but it is his choice. Plus, how do we know that he doesn't have some sort of testosterone defficiency? Which, if that is the case he should go to the doctor. Just don't try to tear him down, give him your opinion and move on.
01-28-2010, 12:16 AM
I wanna chime in on this one.....
SWOLL don't get pissed of bro these guys mean well. You gotta understand that you are exposing yourself to people that have put mad hard work in to get to were their at and then maybe using aas or a ph.
In all honesty the first pic really doesn't look like you put much work in diet wise gym wise whatever thats just gonna be the opinon of just about everybody that see's it unless there kissing your ass.
I think personally that alot of guys wanna depend on these drugs to do the job when really its busting your ass that is gonna make the diffrence.
God gave us these great body's that we can manipulate with are bare hands. Put in the gym time and eat then maybe think about the roids.
No offense meant. And of course the words mean nothing do as you want.
01-28-2010, 12:24 AM
Constructive criticism is productive but cutting someone down only makes things worse, ya know?
01-28-2010, 12:25 AM
thanks mikey and abnxtwo...
all i want is constructive critism and guidance, thats what these boards are for; I know it looks like in the first pic i needed to eat and lift heavier etc. but unless you saw me on a day to day basis before hand you would understand better.. Ive been on lifting forums and in the gym for a long time and have learned a great deal. As mikey said if my diet and training wasnt spot on i wouldnt have made those gains; The gear did help me get passed my problem and i was content with the results and to me thats all that matters. I take working out very seriously, its a big part of my life, when im not in classes or working, im in the gym and eating, so for someone to try and put me down and say i look like ****(when i know i dont, its an ignorant comment, i look better than 85% of the people in my gym), is discouraging and not what these websites are for...
if you want to help, id love to hear it, if not your not impressing anyone by talking tough on an internet board.
but thank you to those who have positive or helpful things to say
01-28-2010, 12:31 AM
i trained 8 years naturally before i started using steroids... Yes thats right i got my first gym membership at 15 and got dropped off by my mother, that was kinda embarassing.
I think what you should do is take another year and try some new programs like GVT or DC and see what works for you the best.See what your perfect rep, set and exercises are for each body part, for example my arms grow a lot more at 10 reps, my chest, shoulders and back at 8 reps, and my legs also at 10-12 reps. I dont think in 3 years i could have figured that out. On top of that make a food journal and keep track of what you are eating. Listen to ur body too if u dont feel something dont keep working it out cause some big guy does it figure out what exercises yield you the most benefit. I dont think using steroids so new into the game is really a good idea, i think with at least another year natty training you can really find out more about ur body and how it responds to diets and programs, without the added cost of running a cycle.
However your body is your own you can do whatever you wish with it. And dbol is amazing but i am much more interested in the bodybuilder type image, I do suggest at your current weight and how much dbol u may use, you may want to use coco butter or get some maderma or something cause dbol will make u grow at a very quick rate and its easy to get stretch marks if you blow up that much. The actual effects of dbol will have some water retention but that will start to go away once the dbol has been ceased. If your worried about bloat u can always get anastrozole. Your diet will more or less determine how you look though, so do not dirty bulk, keep it clean.
01-28-2010, 12:32 AM
I just hate to read about all these young guys turning to roids so soon bro.
And really theres way to many people who say its cool here's a PCT layout and oh yah a complete list of sh-t you need on youre cycle.
You gotta go threw that pain in the gym when youre body says f-it but you push yourself anyway and then do it again.
Trial by Fire.
01-28-2010, 12:37 AM
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01-28-2010, 03:02 PM
Im pretty acne prone on my biceps and back when I ran test and my forehead got murdered from nolva so i was wondering if there is anything i should take to minimize that? ive read about pantothanic acid but ive taken that before and i dont believe it did much
01-28-2010, 03:32 PM
your before pic looks like something out of a concentration camp. i find it hard to believe you lifted heavy or seriously at all for very long.
i don't care how piss-poor one's genetics are, you can't tell me you put in the work for very long with a physique like that.
01-28-2010, 07:39 PM
you can either shower more or go tanning, tanning will dry out the skin a bit so acne will be prevented and or go away faster.
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