(FINEPLEX) Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione

  1. (FINEPLEX) Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione


    I am currently taking this. I am very new to this PH game. To my knowledge this is the same as Finigenx just a different name... Is that correct?

    I am a week into this cycle and as far as I feel Moderate strength gains. Is there something I can stack this with for increased gains???

    Also should I be taking a 30 day cycle or 60 day cycle???

    Thanks in advance...


  2. whats ur pct looking like for this? how high are u dosing it? what prior ph experience do u have?

  3. I highly recommend against cycling this for 60 days. You are looking at 8 weeks on a "tren" oral product.

    I hope you got a clean version and not some of the tainted crap that is floating around.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    I highly recommend against cycling this for 60 days. You are looking at 8 weeks on a "tren" oral product.

    I hope you got a clean version and not some of the tainted crap that is floating around.
    u didnt mean run it for 8 weeks but 60 days is bad i hope. because thats the same amount of time...

  5. This is my first PH ive run... PCT is nolva and its 50 mg a pill and two pills a day. 100 mg /day.

  6. i am also taking
    creatine 500
    nitor
    ets
    plama jet
    hydro whey protein
    casein protein.
    and milk thistle

  7. if its ur first ph run i wouldnt go higher then 120mg at the very most. and i wouldnt go longer then 6 weeks with only nolva for pct. have u got anything for prolactin, cortisol, natty test booster? how are u planning on running the nolva? i would have an ai to prevent estro rebound but thats ur choice i guess

  8. btw since noone asked what are ur stats? age, weight , ht, years lifting etc..

  9. damn sanchez there is much for me to learn. what would you recommend for pct along w/ nolva or instead of nolva? I am very new to this and searching isnt getting me the exact answers i need.

    I really appreciate it.

  10. ok im not gonna be a **** like some people would but honestly bro u shouldve had everything for pct BEFORE starting the cycle. im sure uve heard failing to plan is planning to fail well thats never more true then when it comes to running a cycle. if u are going to run the tren for a full 6 weeks then i would buy some P5P, Vitex, or vitex and 1-carboxy or another L-Dopa product. those will reduce prolactin and since tren is a progestin it will lessen the chance for gyno AS long as you keep estrogen under control it wont be a problem anyway but those three can help. also get a natty test booster for PCT. take ur pick but the ones that get the best feedback are testopro, Recycle, sustain alpha, Diesel test, post cycle assist, Drive, stoked and many more. if u want to run a cort control product reduce XT and suppress C are two good ones and lean xtreme is another more pricey option. and as far as an ai Id go with either 6-bromo or atd whichever one you have experience with and kno works for you.

    PCT
    NOLVA 40/40/20/20
    Test booster 0/0/X/X/X/X
    Cort Control 0/0/X/X/X/X
    AI of your choice using ATD as an example 0/0/50/50/25/25
    and get some vitex and carboxy and run it on cycle and thru pct. idk if u are taking cycle support but i would get something for blood pressure and at least some NAC and ala

  11. is there anything i can stack w my tren for better results?

  12. I would not be stacking for your first cycle.

  13. u DO NOT NEED TO STACK bro seriously. just be patient. if u have your diet and training dialed in like it should be before even considering a cycle and exhausting all other options then tren should yield nice strength and lean gains. how old are you BTW?

  14. age 23 5'8 173 lbs
    body fat % 23.6

  15. ok i def wont stack wasnt sure if i was doing it wrong. i appreciate all the good feedback... keep it coming please

  16. 23.6% BF? you running the tren to cut or what

  17. Quote Originally Posted by tjones2787 View Post
    This is my first PH ive run... PCT is nolva and its 50 mg a pill and two pills a day. 100 mg /day.
    Are you sure its nolva in 50mg pills? I know clomid can be found in 25 a7 50 mg
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    23.6% BF? you running the tren to cut or what
    u shouldnt even have to ask this.

    tjones ur bf% is way too high to be using steroids. get ur diet dialed in and do cardio 4 times per week. dont expect much of anything out steroids with high bf% because nothing will be visible.

    now if ur a powerlifter, then thats another story.

  19. im just going to go out on a whim here, but im more than willing to bet he's not a powerlifter LOL.

  20. Wouldn't clomid be better for PCT after a tren compound?!

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  21. well im going by a weigh watchers scale that calculates body fat lbs and body fat %... I honestly dont know how accurate this thing is. I am not fat by any means jus a pinch around my stomach...

  22. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    u shouldnt even have to ask this.

    tjones ur bf% is way too high to be using steroids. get ur diet dialed in and do cardio 4 times per week. dont expect much of anything out steroids with high bf% because nothing will be visible.

    now if ur a powerlifter, then thats another story.
    i was hoping that number was wrong actually.


    P5SKY: I dont think the OP was refering to 50mg nolva i think he was talking about the tren

  23. Quote Originally Posted by sanchezgreg18 View Post
    u didnt mean run it for 8 weeks but 60 days is bad i hope. because thats the same amount of time...
    No, I said do not run this for 60 days BECAUSE he would be looking at 8 weeks on this product which is probably tainted with crap...
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