What ever happened to the local delivery PH gels?

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    What ever happened to the local delivery PH gels?


    Did the local delivery stuff ever prove to be effective? I stopped following the threads after a while and I dont seen anyone talking about it anymore.

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    I used a bottle of sytenhance with 5g 1-test. I gained about 1/2" on my arms in 3 weeks, kept 1/3". I was on M1t too, so I have no idea if the 1-test went systemic or how much was really from the sytenhance. I have another bottle I plan to run alone sometime.
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    Avants forum have more threads on this. I never tried it since I'm a little skeptical on how it works. One thing to keep in mind if you were to experiment - there was a study on steroids that showed disproportionate increases in the upper body particularly the arms. And guess which part of the body most people tend to slather sysenhance on??

    I'd like to see a bb who is healthy, didn't lose a lot of weight recently by cutting, slap on sysenhance on just one side of the body and document the changes.
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    Presumably if it works like its supposed to, then he could then slap on sysenhance on the other side of the body after the first cycle to bring everything up equally.
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    Not the one-side trial you are looking for, but well worth reading.

    http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=2&t=8979&
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    The pain in the ass with the stuff I forgot to mention, was the gel itself. You cannot fully wash it off your hands like t-gel or regular gels. I would apply it at 6am & touch my face at 2pm & it would still burn after washing several times. I assume the burn is from the 1-test. Dont touch your eyes for hours after applying. I was relieved to be done with it just to avoid that effect.
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    The guy in that link put a .5" on his arms while in a caloric deficet. So even if the stuff works as claimed...do you still have to do a proper PCT to keep your gains? (I would think not - there should be no systemic sides - right?)

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    Hell - maybe Ill pick up a bottle of this before the ban goes through and do a proper cycle log for anabolicminds.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    The guy in that link put a .5" on his arms while in a caloric deficet. So even if the stuff works as claimed...do you still have to do a proper PCT to keep your gains? (I would think not - there should be no systemic sides - right?)

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    That is the idea yes. The vast majority of the feedback suggests that systemic delivery is negligable. But if using high doses and/or using for a long duration, post-cycle recovery agents such as nolvadex or 6-OXO would probably be good to have on-hand, just in case.
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    Sounds interesting - Ill have to give it a whirl...
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    Quick question - would using something like Systenhance have a negative effect on gains from a 1test/4ad cycle done 1-2 months afterward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Quick question - would using something like Systenhance have a negative effect on gains from a 1test/4ad cycle done 1-2 months afterward?

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    Nobody really knows, but most likely it would have a negative effect on HPTA recovery. Avant has admitted that some of the PH would get into the blood & go systemic. Nobody has really run tests to find out how much. There are guys on avant's board who calim they've gotten some lethargy or testicular atrophy from sytenhance only. If you're waiting 2 months, that should be sufficient to start up a new cycle anyway.

    I ran sytenhance (1-test) with 4ad & m1t & I didnt notice any difference in systemic sides form the additional 1-test. Logic would say all that 1-test would cause some killer lethargy, but it really didnt. So maybe the systemic amount is very small like they say.
  

  
 

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