1test/4-AD + Dbol Cycle/Winny

MrBean

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Exp. lifting = seriously for 4 years
Exp. with PH/PS = done 4 1test/4-AD cycles, once stacked with winny.
Height = 5' 11"
Age = 29
Weight = 174lbs
BF = 12%
Aim = increas lean mass with minimal fat gain
Training = 9 Day split focussing on the compound lifts
Cardio = 2-3 days a week for 30 mins @ low intensity
Diet = moderate carbs & fats / high protein
Supplements = multi-v, vit-c, vit-b, vit-e, r-ala, milk thistle, alcar.

Planning one of the following subject to feedback/approval:

CYCLE 1
Week 1-4 25mg Dbol ED (first time with this)
Week 1-6 10g 1 test/ 5g 4-AD

OR

CYCLE 2
Week 1-3 25mg Dbol ED
Week 1-6 10g 1 test / 5g 4-AD
Week 4-6 50mg Winny ED

PCT
Week 7-9 20mg Nolva ED + creatine + increase flax oil intake
 

jweave23

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I'd say stack 1. Not that you can't bulk with Winny, but it'll be much simpler and very effective with d-bol for 4 weeks. I'd save the winny for a cut sometime :)
 
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I'd also say #1 because in choice 2 things seem to be to bunched up. If you were to do two I would run an 7 week cycle and it would look like this,
Week 1-2 35mg Dbol ED
Week 1-6 10g 1 test / 5g 4-AD
Week 5-7 50mg Winny ED or 6-8

My reason being it would give your liver a few weeks in between methyl's and give the winny an extra week past the 1test and 4ad to help solidify gains and maybe harden you up a little more.
 
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yea Numero Uno!, that will probably stress the liver out too if its all oral!
 

Nate Dawg

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Will the 1 test and 4ad help retain the gains from the dbol better than if you ran dbol only cycle? I know they say dont do an oral only cycle, but I have always wondered if stacking it with the 1 test and 4ad would help retain the gains? Thanks!
 

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