Does it matter if you take a methyl with food or with out?
- 01-11-2010, 03:42 PM
- 01-11-2010, 04:59 PM
i was always told with methyl it's better to take with food, or more importantly fats or some kind, my buddy insists on taking all ph's with natty peanut butter and some fish oil, i'm currently running epi and i've heard all kinds of different opinions on with or without food, haven't researched phera enough to know about that
01-11-2010, 05:03 PM
01-11-2010, 05:35 PM
i think its the non-methyls particularly that are suggested to be taken with food with a rich content in fat due to the fact that it aids in absorption
hormones in general are lipophilic, but like i said, i think the idea of consuming fats particularly applies to non-methyls that generally seem to have less bioavailability...so the addition of fats complements their absorption
ill say this though, if i even take a low dose methyl without a meal surrounding it somehow i get a pretty nasty headache...there is some skepticism however that rich meals taken with methyls actually hinder their absorption
dont quote me as a source, most of what i regurgitated is off the top of my head from basic memory
01-12-2010, 11:40 AM
01-12-2010, 11:45 AM
01-12-2010, 11:48 AM
01-12-2010, 11:51 AM
01-12-2010, 12:20 PM
yeah thats it sorry non methyl's with food, my bad, tottally forgot that my buddy takes all his ph's with food, but him being so stubborn refused to take anything except for tren
01-12-2010, 12:22 PM
General oral administration of methylated steroids, quoted from William Llewellyn author "anabolics 9th edition"
Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.407 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach.
like i said, on an empty stomach, or atleast with food that is low in fat, that is, if you want optimal absorbtion, if you dont, then take it with some fat, it will help lessen sides, and gains...
01-12-2010, 12:47 PM
01-12-2010, 09:08 PM
i take my damn p-plex with fat everyday! i hear everyone say thats right.. but i do trust Anabolics 2009... lets FIGURE THIS OUT
01-12-2010, 09:39 PM
I also take my methyl ph doses (sd, pp) with fish oil...would be great to see other wise since this is what has been workin for me...
01-12-2010, 10:31 PM
01-12-2010, 10:34 PM
all possible factors. I've gained over 11 lbs entering my third week of Pplex, so i'm not going to complain, but just to know.
01-12-2010, 11:00 PM
01-12-2010, 11:10 PM
im not sure how much may be affected. i just know what Llewellyn recomends. it may depend from person to person, if it's working for you, why stop? (besides the possiblity of maybe making it better) but there is only one way to know......
01-12-2010, 11:17 PM
I take mine with the EVOO and fish oil. The EVOO is tasteless to me just drink some water after. I think it helps..
01-12-2010, 11:30 PM
ill say this though, if i even take a low dose methyl without a meal surrounding it somehow i get a pretty nasty headache...
im on superdrol... could this be why i get a headache i cant get rid of?
01-12-2010, 11:39 PM
increased absorbtion could lead to more sides, without having more gains. btw.
this is also the case often noted in studies done on dhb with medication. an increase in side effects without having more positive effects.
01-12-2010, 11:43 PM
01-13-2010, 12:42 AM
01-13-2010, 04:30 PM
01-13-2010, 04:52 PM
01-13-2010, 10:26 PM
agreed with the above post, the headache could be due to not having enough water intake.
Also seems interesting on what Harry Manback said...if takin methyl compounds without fats it maye increase the potency...ummmm.....so....only one way to find out
01-14-2010, 03:16 AM
So... would it be best to wake up in the morning, take my methylated compound, wait 20-30 minds, eat breakfast, and then take my cycle support? Or would it be better to take everything on an empty stomache?
01-14-2010, 09:12 AM
01-15-2010, 01:49 AM
I take all of mine with grapefruit juice about 30 minutes before I eat. Supposedly the grapefruit juice increases the half-life and possibly absorption. I don't know if it really works any better, but it hasn't hindered my gains!
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