PH's for a cutting?

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  1. Originally posted by Big Daddy Chemo
    One thing to keep in mind:

    If using 1,4 while cutting the effect will be an INCREASED APPETITE. Not a desired effect when cutting

    Chemo
    Chemo, I thought all ph, and 1-test will increase appetite?
    4AD will cause water retention, while 1AD/1test will give lean gains. Don't know much about the 5AA or 1,4. So for cutting wouldn't 1test/1ad be best?

    I went 8 weeks using SO+ and homebrew (4g 1test, 6g 4AD). For the next one I think I will use up my 2 bottles of 1AD, and add some 4AD homebrew. Closer to spring I will cut by may be using straight 1test. Sound good?


  2. Originally posted by Sean
    Sounds like a good stack, LG, but how much does it cost? And where the hell do you get all the money for that at age 18? I mean, if I even suggested buying all that in one go, my wife would kick my ass.

    I would drop 1K at a time for my gear cycles. If you handle the money in the house how would your wife every know? If you dont handle it start.
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  3. I don't handle all the money. I mean, I'm the one MAKING it, but I'm usually just too damned lazy to do the bills and all.

  4. Originally posted by Sean
    I don't handle all the money. I mean, I'm the one MAKING it, but I'm usually just too damned lazy to do the bills and all.

    Yeah but it would be worth it to take them over. Then you can hide the amount your spending to get bigger.

  5. I'm a high school teacher. I have more than enough paperwork to handle.
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  6. Originally posted by Lifeguard
    I'm a young one I'm only 18, but I know about the hairloss thing because every male on my moms side of the family still has a fill head of hair!

    And we all know that the hairloss gene comes from our moms.

    18 now I feel old.

    That mother side of the family is total crap. My brother in law is almost bald and he is only 26 years old. His moms side is solid on the hair front. But his dad was bald before he was 30.

  7. Lifeguard,

    those cycles sound great, but are very expensive.

    What bf% are you before and after cutting?

  8. He's about 1%. He's a lifegaurd.... hehehe. talk to ya

  9. Originally posted by Super Tri's
    Lifeguard,

    those cycles sound great, but are very expensive.

    What bf% are you before and after cutting?

    Well, most recently, as in Mid September I was at about 152 @ 4.8% bf, no water retention from the ECA and I was already drinking a ton of water per day anyway...I had some major shredz goin', that was badass.

    before my cutting I was about 147 @ about 10-11%

    People thought I weighed about 165-170 the whole time and whwnI told them my actual weight, they refuced to beleive me until I stepped onto a scale to prove it.

    And curt,

    1% is next summer...hehe


    P.S. When I was cutting,I wasn't even trying it just kinda happened, I was taking in a slightly reduced calorie diet, cheating all the time, and taking ECA....I dont know
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  10. Originally posted by curt2go
    He's about 1%. He's a lifegaurd.... hehehe. talk to ya

    Next year before I compete I plan to be in the range of 2.8-3.5% bf Thats gonna be a bitch, (but thats what UA is for, hehe )
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  11. That is a crazy bf%, especially saying you cheated.

    I had to f'n do 6-8 session of cardio, 50g of carbs a day and 6 litres of water a day to go down to 10%.

    Consider yourself pretty lucky.

    Thats why this year i'm going to keep my bf% around 12% year round, so I can try and cut to about 7-8% with 12 weeks of work.

    One of the trainers at my gym (who's my friend and I train with occasionally), is the most shredded person I have ever seen! He is probably about 3% year round, he is so f'n lean it's unreal, no fat anywhere, barely even skin.

    But he's a freak of nature, he eats about 1000 carbs a day ontop of that.

    I think it's all the drugs that keep him lean (other that anabolics)

  12. I had to f'n do 6-8 session of cardio...


    I think to add insult to injury the only cardio I did was stacking/unstacking about 100-150 lounge chairs (10-15 pounds each) per day and doing an occassional 10-20 meter sprint-swim to save some dumbass that thought they could swim(2x/day) and stand on my feet all day long, and this is the WHOLE summer.

    Oh yeah, and SHIVERING, cuz on some days, it wasn't warm and the wind was blowing, and I know that burns lots of calories.
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  13. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Lifeguard
    [B]


    Well, most recently, as in Mid September I was at about 152 @ 4.8% bf, no water retention from the ECA and I was already drinking a ton of water per day anyway...I had some major shredz goin', that was badass.

    before my cutting I was about 147 @ about 10-11%

    People thought I weighed about 165-170 the whole time and whwnI told them my actual weight, they refuced to beleive me until I stepped onto a scale to prove it.:rolleye]

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    How tall are you? I got down to 6% this summer and it nearly killed me to do so. Not to bad for a 33 year old married guy with 3 young kids. Normal I sit around 10%.

  14. I'm 5'9" and about 157(currently)
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  15. Originally posted by Lifeguard
    I'm 5'9" and about 157(currently)

    I was about the same when I was 18. Now I am 205 off cycle about 9% BF.

  16. Lifeguard,
    ya, you have it easy, but packing on the pounds of course would be your challenge because of your body type.

    I used to be a lifeguard too, but my girlfriend can kick my ass at swimming.

    She swam competitivly from 8-19 (were both 22 now). She was very very good, one of the best in Canada (for what's that worth) when she was younger.

    The training they have to go through is nuts, she had to start weight training when she was 12.

    But, her quads are stronger than mine and most people if you pick a lower weight and both go to failure.


    Aneas,
    great work, must have really worked your ass off.

    This year i'm going to start cutting earlier so i'll be lean for when summer starts, rather than finishes

  17. **Aneas,
    great work, must have really worked your ass off.***

    Yeah that and I took alot of gear. I think when I started I was 130 lbs.

    I went to my 10 year high school reunion and people **** there pants when they saw me.

  18. Originally posted by Super Tri's
    Lifeguard,
    ya, you have it easy, but packing on the pounds of course would be your challenge because of your body type.


    I'm an Ecto-Meso, more meso than ecto...hehe
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  19. Originally posted by Aneas

    I went to my 10 year high school reunion and people **** there pants when they saw me.

    Thats fukin' COOL!! I want that to happen to me!
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  20. Originally posted by Lifeguard



    Thats fukin' COOL!! I want that to happen to me!
    I hear that. When I was in HS I sat between 103 and 115 for wrestling and martial arts tournaments... until Senior year. If I was even 160 when they saw me I doubt I'd be recognized. :-P

    Thanks for the inspiration Aneas


    - B

  21. Originally posted by BrKonman


    I hear that. When I was in HS I sat between 103 and 115 for wrestling and martial arts tournaments... until Senior year. If I was even 160 when they saw me I doubt I'd be recognized. :-P

    Thanks for the inspiration Aneas


    - B
    I was also into wrestling in HS. My senior year I had enough bulk to go at 125. lol.

  22. Ohhh I see we have some wrestlers in the house


    WRESTLING KICKS ASS!!
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  23. Originally posted by Aneas


    I was also into wrestling in HS. My senior year I had enough bulk to go at 125. lol.
    LoL... I remember the guys wrestling anything over that being able to sit on me and get a pin. Man, I wish I could go a round with some of those tubbies now :-P

  24. Originally posted by curt2go
    ...and lost body fat and gained weight... It is awsome.. talk to ya..

    If you were over on BB.com they would flame you and say that it was impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
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  25. Originally posted by Lifeguard



    If you were over on BB.com they would flame you and say that it was impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

    Guess they have never done fina/prop/eq/winny stack.

  26. Originally posted by Aneas



    Guess they have never done fina/prop/eq/winny stack.

    Yeah, that sure would do it.
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  27. They don't sell that stack here.
    Anyone actually have any luck ordering online?

  28. Originally posted by Sean
    They don't sell that stack here.
    Anyone actually have any luck ordering online?
    Yes. Visit boards get to know the vets/mods. That will minimize your chances of getting scammed.

  29. Originally posted by Gmonkey
    If you were using that stack to cut what diet would you go with?
    Keto or a conventional diet? How many calories per pound body weight? I may do this In Jan. could I use the t1-pro or would you recommend the T1?

    Would you even bother with SU while on this?

    Would you use 7-keto and how much cardio would you do?

    Type of training

    for my mass phase I am doing

    6-10 reps, not taken to failure.

    Mon: Chest-4 sets/Quads-4sets/shoulders-2sets/triceps-4sets/calves-4 sets



    Tue: Hamstrings-4 sets/Back-4sets/Biceps-4sets/Abs 4 sets
    reverse pec deck 3 sets, forearms 3 sets

    Wed:Repeat Monday

    Thur:Off

    Fri:Repeat Tuesday

    Sat:Repeat Monday

    Sun:Repeat Tuesday
    Mon: off

    I'm going to be doing something similar (starting monday), but aren't you suppossed to give a minimal 48hrs before working the same body part? Why not rest wednesday then repeat? I'm going to go only 4 days a week (mon/tues, thurs/fri) with a similar routine. Let me know if i've been misinformed!

  30. Originally posted by dodgeee-O


    I'm going to be doing something similar (starting monday), but aren't you suppossed to give a minimal 48hrs before working the same body part? Why not rest wednesday then repeat? I'm going to go only 4 days a week (mon/tues, thurs/fri) with a similar routine. Let me know if i've been misinformed!
     

    When ur using PH/AAS you can work the same bodypart more often because the compounds allow you do recover a lot faster...

     

     

    LG.
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