Well here we go boys...
- 12-26-2009, 03:40 PM
Well here we go boys...
M-drol at 10/10/10/10. I'm going to be the guinea pig on this low dosing. Have read it's been done with fair results so here I go... Will be including a daily detailed log including calories, weight, workout routine, and sides if any.
Have been pre-loading Milk Thistle for the past 2 weeks and will continue with 900mg/day throughout the cycle, along with DHEA, and Multi-V.
Because of the fact that I'm using such a low dose of M-drol... OTC PCT will be possible although I will still run Clomid at 50/50/50/50 just to be sure because I'm not sure how prone I am towards gyno but I would like to make sure nothing arises from this.
Here are some pics on day one.. I will post pics every week.. sorry for the back shot, it's pretty dificult to take a pic of your back in the mirror but it'll do.
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- 12-26-2009, 03:43 PM
12-26-2009, 07:49 PM
Day 1 (177.5)
Calories ~3,500 (Big majority Carbs/Protein) A disgusting amount of White Rice, 5 slices of wheat Bread, A large Chicken Sub from Subway, plate of Beef Raviollis from X-mas, and probably another thing before I hit the bed.
600mg Milk Thistle (probably will take 1 more cap before bed)
About 2 Gallons Water
Lift: (Bi's and Tri's)
DB Curls----------------(40) 3X10
Tricep Pulldowns--------(65) 2X10
Seated DB Curls---------(30) 3X10
Tri Dumb Extension------(65) 1X10
EZ Curl 21's-------------(67.5)
------------------------(67.5) Failed on 20th rep
Straight Tri Pulls---------(40) 1X10
Thoughts so far:
Well, going into the gym I may have been under a severe placebo effect but everything felt great. All my lifts were extremely clean, no cheating. No sides obviously but I'll keep you updated.
Tomorrows Lift: Back/Shoulders
EDIT: Post-Lift/Eating Weight was 183
12-26-2009, 10:38 PM
12-26-2009, 11:15 PM
12-27-2009, 04:24 AM
Welcome guys.. I would like to add that tonight's sleep (day 1) is horrible. I got about 3 hours of sleep without interruption and now I've just been tossing and turning for the past couple hours and I have to get up at 6:00 to work the Pats game tomorrow/today/one****inghour. Definitely going to pick up a sleep aid with this.
EDIT: It's now 6:00 and I still haven't gone back to sleep. I'm not sure what the ****s wrong right now.. pretty frustrated and if this is going to be an every night thing, this is going to be a 2 day cycle. I'm picking up Snooze-In after I get outta the football game at around 6 and I'm gonna have a tough lift on about 3 hours of sleep which will suck and hopefully be able to sleep solid. Extremely frustrated after laying in bed for about 4 hours without being able to fall asleep yet being extremely tired with a headache from being so god damn tired... off to a rough start.
12-27-2009, 10:20 AM
That happens to everybody from time to time you lay in bed just thinking about everything that happened to you that day and everything that's gonna happen the next day.Don't sweat get up early like normal and the most important thing is if your feeling tired at a certain time at night go right to bed don't fight it because if you stay up an extra hour to finish that movie your watching you will lose it and be up all night. My 2 cents..Good luck with your cycle
12-27-2009, 10:43 AM
Melatonin might be able to help you sleep while on cycle.. IMO I get those kind of nights from time to time off/on cycles if I think too much...
12-27-2009, 10:47 AM
12-27-2009, 01:04 PM
Good luck with the low dose, it is a good concept to use the minimum amount to still be effective, I hope this works for you, hopefully the gains will be nice and steady and easier to maintain
12-27-2009, 01:15 PM
12-27-2009, 01:30 PM
I did this about 2 months ago going from 218 to 230. I'm down to 225 and holding well. I ran nolva for a week and that was it, granted I wasn't shut down at all. Probably starting nxt week I will be doin the same with pheraplex. Good luck.
12-27-2009, 07:14 PM
12-27-2009, 07:18 PM
12-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Day 2 (180.5 lbs +3)
After the miserable start to my day I worked as an usher at the Pats game for about 8 hours.. got out and went to the gym.. changed it from a back/shoulder day to a back/abs day so I can pair Chest/shoulders for tomorrow.
Calories, In the ballpark of 3,200. (made sure to keep eating throughout the day)
Breakfast was a heaping plate of lasagna, corned beef hash, and a protein shake with some vanilla eggnog for extra calories
Big 100 Protein bar, lots of water, Chicken
Lunch was Gatorade, more chicken, baked potato
20g Protein bar, potato sticks, water
Dinner was a huge steak and cheese sub Big protein shake, and the rest of the lasagna.
Lat Pulls (160) 3X10
Low Rows (150) 3X10
DB Rows (55) 1X10
Hanging leg Raises until fail X3
Resistance crunches (90)X10
Sit Ups until Fail X 3
12-27-2009, 09:45 PM
To answer everyone's questions....my batch number is 53426...OCT 2012
Regarding starting gear at my weight...
I'm sure you guys hear all about the "well i don't put on weight" all the time.. and that's not my scenario.. for me, with the activities that I do, it's incredibly difficult for me to gain weight. I don't lift like a football player, I've been boxing since I was a freshman in HS and it's a very demanding sport on your body. It's very tough to put on weight when you're in a calorie demanding sport such as boxing.. not to bash football, because I used to play football when I was in HS, but it's a sport with a lot of breaks in it, and the calories consumed often heavily outweigh the calories burned.. I made the decision to step over from all the former boosters/ natty products this summer. I have taken all the best "natty" products, Powerfull, Prime, Animal stak, all the creatines, and since have literally spent almost 6 months researching everything before putting anything in my body. This is something I am willing to do and for me it's the right choice in my mind.
12-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Well, cant knock your rational mate. Good luck with the run.
In regards to your workout, looks like you need to throw in some compound movements.
Chins-Deads-BO Rows - hit 2 out of 3 of those movements per WO, then finish off with maybe lat pulldowns or cable rows.
Or for sh1ts and giggles do a Deads-only WO - that'll smash all your muscle fibres guarenteed
12-27-2009, 10:11 PM
12-28-2009, 11:54 AM
Just woke up today at about 11:40, went to bed last night around 11 so I actually got more than 12 hours of sleep to make up for Saturday night's sleep. Feel great today, all my muscles are feeling tight, my abs are actually cutting up even more than usual while still eating over 3k Cals. Mood is great, feelings hopelessly happy for some reason like something good is coming. A big 180 from Saturday.. I'll keep you guys updated after todays workout.. (Chest/Shoulders) we'll see how this rubs off on my lifts today, about to go eat a big breakfast, then get some pasta.
12-28-2009, 05:35 PM
Day 3 (184.5 +7)
As promised my breakfast was ****ing enormous..
4X serving size on pasta ended up with about 220g Carbs, Estimate about 90g Protein, 15-20g Fat I think it was almost 1,500 Cals. Disgustingly full after. Hit the gym after, drank a big protein shake(300 cals) and a footlong oven chicken breast from subway (700 cals). Gonna have some home-made steak and cheese calzones tonight for dinner. I think my diet is becoming tuned in. (I've been working on improving diet for the past few months). And with SD, it's much easier to notice when you're doing it right.
135X17 (I always try repping out for max reps right after doing my 5,3,3,3,4) Also like to add in that instead of trying to go heavier and heavier I'm focusing on going with true weight. I'm no longer trying to get extra reps at the cost of form. That being said I'm happy to be getting 200 for 4 squeaky clean reps with a bad shoulder.
Front DB Raises (25) 3X10
Side DB Raises (15)1X10
(35 DB) X10 (my shoulder began to hurt again once doing this so I moved over to the fly machine. Dislocated my shoulder a couple times when I was younger along with a book of other injuries so Machines that don't require as much stabilzer muscles are easier on the joints for me)
Well as I said before today was a great day, my sleep was excellent, a little over 12 hours worth, everything went well today, Muscles becoming harder, more firm, and more cut, I notices my forearm becoming a lot more cut with muscles I've never seen starting to pop through. No sides as of yet to report of. Will keep you guys updated if anything pops up tonight but as of now I'm good. See you guys tomorrow for my Jakellpet inspired Deadlift day.. We'll see what I can do. I was contemplating incorperating the 300 workout into this because they include a Deadlift exercise where you rep 135 X 50.. Supposed to be a killer. Can't wait guys. Thanks for following it keeps me excited to go to the gym
12-30-2009, 02:30 AM
Day 4 (184 +6.5)
Muscles really hardening up. My traps are begining to feel huge haha, feels kinda weird but i'm liking it. No sides to report of yet except my balls are starting to feel a little bit weird.
Todays lift was cut short due to work...
Began deadlifting 135X10
185X10 then was told to stop deadlifting because it's against Planet fitness' rules......
Moved onto squats and did 135X10, 185X10, 225X5, 135X10.. Hadn't done legs in a while but it felt nice.
Calories nearly 4,000 today, mostly carbs and proteins...
Overall I'm feeling good. Extremely tired as I type this now and I had 10 hours of sleep last night. Well I'm off for now, enjoy the rest of your week guys
01-02-2010, 01:56 PM
Day 5-7, (183 +5.5 ,184 +6.5 ,186+8.5)
Front rows, 160 3X10
Pulldowns 160 3X10
Standing Curls (40) 3X10
EZ 21's 3X10 (67.5)
Seated Curls (30) 3X10
BB Rows, 135 3X10
Day 6 (Chest)
DB Flies (45) 3X10 (this exercise sometimes bothers my shoulder so I stay lighter)
Kept this workout short because my GF came down for the past few days so I'm pressed for time..
Day 7: (shoulder abs)
Cross cable pulls
15 each arm (4X10)
Front DB Raises
(funky db lift that I don't know the name for almost like both arms bent 90 degrees and bowing them outward)
Hanging legs raises until fail 3X10
Leg raising crunches.
My left nipple is begining to feel somewhat weird from time to time. Not itchy or anything, just a little bit weird, not too worried though but I am keeping an eye on it. No other sides to report, balls don't feel weird anymore and havent shrunk, as I said my GF is here so the libidos still ace. Everything else is good. Just feeling really bloated probably because of the massive food cals I've been eating (pretty much 3,500 +) every day. Sorry for the wait guys, been really busy with the New Years. I'm ordering to UFC tonight so after my Legs day today I'm gonna be watching that, go SILVA and YVEL.
01-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Way too many isolation exercises, not nearly enough calories.
Hit Bench/Squat/Dead/Military/Power Cleans hard and heavy. Secondary emphasis on Barbell Rows, Chins, Dips. Throw out all the other exercises for now. Eat 1,000-1,500 calories above maintenance, with around 1.5g of protein per lb of bodyweight. You'll put on 30lbs WITHOUT the M-Drol. Only then start looking at PH/DS, and you'll need to ramp up the calories and intensity to an even higher level to get the most out of it.
01-02-2010, 02:23 PM
01-02-2010, 03:33 PM
BTW, WTF is this:
4 warmup sets followed by 200X4 followed by 135X19?
01-02-2010, 04:24 PM
01-02-2010, 04:27 PM
01-02-2010, 04:30 PM
It is, but it takes a few weeks to rep out an honest 100, start out with your highest tolerance level, if your putting up 10x10 the first week your weight's too light. I dont believe that's his workout, just a joke
01-02-2010, 04:33 PM
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
01-02-2010, 04:37 PM
Well anymore, theres all sorts of variations to virtually every workout, I've done GVT and could never start out with a pure 100, But yes the true GVT is 10x10: no exceptions.
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