My first cycle ever... got some andro... need some advice

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    My first cycle ever... got some andro... need some advice


    Hi all... I am 29 and have been lifting off and on for 12 years... when I heard they were pulling andro from the market, I went to the local GNC and bought some as it was dirt cheap. I got "Andro Nitrate Fuel".. I've searched the board but it doesn't seem like too many are using this product. I know there are better out there but I already have it and I plan on using it.. here is the breakdown:

    4-AD-EC (4-androstenediol diethylcarbonate ester)
    1-AD-EC (1-androstenediol ethylcarbonate)
    A1-EC (17-hydroxyandrost-1-ene-3-one ethylcarbonate ester)

    It says 100mg per tablet, but it doesn't breakdown how much is 4-AD, 1-AD, etc.

    My questions are:

    1) How much should I be taking? I've got 2 bottles of 60 and I planned on doing a 4 week cycle so I have enough for 4 pills a day... is this enough or should I try to find some more?

    2) PCT. After this cycle, do I need to take 6-OXO or would Nolva be better? I believe it should be taken for 4 weeks after, not 2?

    Thanks!

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    Honestly, that's a really poor product. Orally, I needed over 1,500mg per day 4ad for results. A long time ago when I took 1ad, it was 500+mg per day. Hope you still have your receipt; I'd return that product.

    Do a little research on the board about transdermals.
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    First thing - return your items. No point in wasting cash there.
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    There are much better options available that what you have, thats why there isnt any info on them here. As far as PHs go: if GNC carries it, its not very good. That stuff is way underdosed, you'd need a lot of it to get anything from it. 4ad is not very good orally, you'd need 600mg-1000mg daily. For 1ad, typical dose is 300-600mg daily. 4 pills/day of what you have would only give you 400mg total, you'd probably need more like 12 pills/day.

    You wont gain much from a 4-week cycle as these things take a few weeks to kick in & to see gains. A 6-week cycle would suit you much better. My best advice is to get a 1-test/4ad transdermal & get rid of the stuff.

    Nolva is better for PCT than 6-oxo, & 3-4 weeks is normal PCT protocol. I use 4 weeks descending dose at 40mg/30mg/20mg/10mg.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone... looks like I will be returning the stuff... too bad, I was looking forward to trying it out... I knew I would need much more than the recommended dose of 1 tab a day but it sounds like I would have to take around 10 if not more so a bottle wouldn't even last a week!
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