Actual Ban?

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  1. Actual Ban?


    I went to a local supplement shop that has a pretty good selection of PH and DS. The owner told me that he recently received a call telling him that he can no longer sell PH/DS as of January 4, 2010 or he will face criminal charges.

    Is this the date for all shops nationwide or is it just his "turn"?


  2. interesting
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  3. its the date for the ban of bold, phera, tren
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  5. Thanks.

    I might have misunderstood him, as I thought he meant all of them. Or maybe he's just not taking any chances. I'll have to check next time I go to his shop.

  6. Epi is safe?

  7. for now I believe
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  8. unfortunately epi is not safe, its been discontinued, good luck finding it

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    unfortunately epi is not safe, its been discontinued, good luck finding it
    What about Havoc?

    It's the same thing, and can still be found many places, including my gym, where it is even out on display with other supplements!

  10. you can still find some havoc and easily find E-Stane which are the same compounds but for some reason epi is harder to find
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    you can still find some havoc and easily find E-Stane which are the same compounds but for some reason epi is harder to find
    So both are still legal/not on "the list"/not banned yet?

  12. I love epi

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    Benzeneethanamine HCL, 1,5 Methoxy phenethylamine,
    dimethyl phenethylamine

    PROPRIETY BLEND: 125 MG:
    Willow Bark, Hoodia, Thebromine HCL, Yohimbine HCL, Synephrine
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  14. I would be careful buying that many bottles of anything, as it is also illegal to posses.
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  15. I wouldn't take it close to bed time.

  16. ya my boy has a shop here in CA, still has spawn and tren extreme on his shelf, but says not for long

  17. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I would be careful buying that many bottles of anything, as it is also illegal to posses.
    For bold, phera, and tren.

    For now, it appears that there are other compounds that are safe (like Epi/Havoc, for example).

    Correct?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DGA3 View Post
    What about Havoc?

    It's the same thing, and can still be found many places, including my gym, where it is even out on display with other supplements!
    You're saying that it's sitting out where anyone that walks in can purchase it?!!!?

  19. I know of a guy that literally has cases of each, I mean cases!

  20. I have noticed most epi products are discontinued even though you can still purchase them some places

  21. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    I know of a guy that literally has cases of each, I mean cases!
    I'll need this guy's email ASAP

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DGA3 View Post
    For bold, phera, and tren.

    For now, it appears that there are other compounds that are safe (like Epi/Havoc, for example).

    Correct?
    Correct
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    You're saying that it's sitting out where anyone that walks in can purchase it?!!!?
    Yep.

    Locked up, but on display in a glass case with other supplements.
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    Why bold of all things? I mean really you don't hear about idiot kids killing themselves with it. It's pretty much the safest effective PH out there.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by dpfisher View Post
    Why bold of all things? I mean really you don't hear about idiot kids killing themselves with it. It's pretty much the safest effective PH out there.
    bold has tren in it and tren is in the ban list

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    bold has tren in it and tren is in the ban list
    They banned the actual "bold" compound, 1,4 ADD. Most likely because there are actual studies done on it.
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    Well I know what I'm getting as an xmas present to myself now. That stuff was a godsend for my tendons.

  28. gotta love it and they left superdrol on the market! i really dont understand bold either. but hey maybe it will be like the last ban and we can have the other stuff for another 4-5yrs

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Delta Force View Post
    bold has tren in it and tren is in the ban list
    actually thats not correct... I was speaking of spawn not bold... my bad

  30. if you read the article, it shows the dea failed to prove tren (pro dienolone) and boldione matched the description of a class 3 substance and deserving to be banned.

    and when the other end pointed this out, the dea pretty much stated nope, they say it does, and thats that.

    they are right, no matter what science says. wft is science for anyways?
  

  
 

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