- 03-19-2004, 06:19 PM
Well, going into my 4th week of pct and I'm already planning my next cycle.
This time I'm going for a lean mass/quasi-cutting cycle after the nice 24 lbs I gained off my last one.
I think I am going to run 10mg m1t alone 2on/off/on/off. run ~100-200 cal above mat. and keep protein around 300-350. I have some 4ad powder, but I am probably going to leave it out this time.
- 03-19-2004, 06:34 PM
I think you won't like the M1T cycle as much without the 4AD.
- 03-19-2004, 06:41 PM
03-19-2004, 06:48 PM
stack the 4-AD, it'll help suppress some of the sides that come with the M-1-T
03-19-2004, 06:58 PM
If you don't it will be the first and last time for that idea.
03-19-2004, 07:41 PM
There are some that have done just fine with M1T and nothing else.
03-19-2004, 07:42 PM
For what periods of time. Three to four weeks of use without it, would not be fun as far as shut down and other side effects go.
03-19-2004, 08:05 PM
Well, I have been thinking about it. I have 5 grams of 4ad just sitting there waiting to be used. pn is out of tgel... but I'n not gonna start for a few more weeks anyway. I had seen where people had done m1t fine solo on the forum.
so... should i do this
frontload 4ad for 2 weeks, then do 2on/2off/2on then pct?
or just jump all in at once?
03-19-2004, 10:52 PM
i've been on m1t alone for 2 weeks as of tomorrow and i've been feeling great. i ran my first week at 10mg and then i bumped it up to 20mg for my second week.
placebo or not, i noticed that the very first workout i already felt the m1t in my system (i consumed it about 3 hours prior going to the gym)
i had the common noticeable side effects (lower back cramps, lethargy, minor insomnia) for the first week starting on day 3 but i was already up like 5 pounds in 3 days. after i bumped up my doseage to 20mg the side effects strangely went away and i haven't noticed them since then except last night my back was cramping up a little before i went to sleep. i made a no carb casein shake and put a banana in it and took down 2000mg of taurine and it hasn't come back since.
i was going to stop at 2 weeks if sides were unbearable, but they've been perfectly fine. i'm going to try and go for four weeks on if possible because i'm making great progress. i'm going to have my liver values checked sometims this next week. as of right now after 2 weeks i'm up about 10 pounds and i seem to be more lean, and of course more vascular.
03-19-2004, 11:24 PM
03-20-2004, 07:56 AM
Frontload the 4AD or start all at once? I've gone both ways and think I liked the former better. I started the 4AD one week prior the M1T. I'll do that again next time.Originally Posted by RRAdam
mrfumetsu - will you be posting your LFTs?
03-20-2004, 11:14 AM
I have done 2 m1t cycles during the first i had lower backpain as a side and during the second i had no sides at all...NONE. m1t alone is great but everyones different.
03-20-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by michaelton
yeah i'll post them. i have to talk to the guy in my bio class (he works for a company that tests) to see when i can come in this week. i'll make a thread when i get the results.
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