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Phera, SD or synergy?

meathed

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What's up fellas. Just looking for some opinions here. I started a a lean bulk to recomp bridge beginning on the 16th of November. I apologize for the lack of loggage but I'm still fairly new here and have not actually even made a new topic until now. Anyway, here is the breakdown of my cycle and the current issue I'm having. Just as FYI, I have had previous experience with AX Phera, a few Epi clones and a handful of other OTC's (not SD) &, no AAS.

One week Pre-Load AI's Cycle Support

Ancillary if needed:

*Tamoxifen
*Clomiphene
*Caber
*Letro
*Propecia

On Cycle supps:
-AI's CS
-Multi Vit.
-DHEA if needed
-Chromium Pic
-B-Complex
-BCAA+EFA
-Taurine

The Goods:
SD: 20/20/30
Phera: 00/20/30/30
Epi: 00/00/00/30/40/50

So, the issue is this. The first week all went well. The SD didn't really make itself known until ~day 6, (CEL's M-Drol B#52897 JUN2012). Mine is legit confirmed. Starting on day 8 with the Phera/SD dosing, spread evenly throughout the day, I began having some of the worst back/calf pumps I have experienced. They have not abated even in the slightest as of this morning. I am dosing 2.5g Taurine x2/d, and my diet is all clean 3500-4000kCal, 50/30/20 P/F/CO. My sleep kind of sucks b/c I work 11p-7a at a hotel and then class from 9a-2p, but I still average around 5-6 hrs. split up throughout the day.

My lack of experience with combining these two compounds, such as it is, is causing me to second guess whether I should continue with both or just the SD followed by the Epi and drop the Phera. What do you guys think? Is there a lesser of two evils with SD/Phera? Do I stand a better chance of minimizing the cramping with just the SD?

Anyone with a theory or some experience who wishes to chime in is considered pretty damn bueno in my book today. I'm at a loss.
 
Oh yeah I forgot to mention one thing. The hallmark pumps began the evening after a heavy leg day. I spent ~2hrs at my gym including 30min. treadmill @75% LT. At first I thought it was just a side effect of training, but I am now convinced otherwise. I train 5-6 days per week with some cardio ED.
 
Phera is def. the lesser of the 2 evils. Your bridge of the 3 compounds looks good to me! Im on m-drol now and the back pumps arent really that bad IMO, but the calf pumps and shin splints are; I do sprints here and there... Phera back pumps arent as bad as SD and you will feel a sense of euphoria on it as well. keep your cycle as is and you should make great gains in mass as well as strength..
 
Thanks for the reply gamer. Keeping the cycle as is would be the ideal situation however, I cannot tolerate the perma pump in my lower back for very much longer. I might just stick with 20mg of the SD instead of bumping it up to 30 on Thursday. I ended up taking some tramadol today, and right in the middle of class I started to get really spacey and light headed. I'm not sure if there is a contraindication with SD/Phera and Tramadol. Everything I've read on Tram suggests no dangerous interactions exist. Regardless, I definitely felt an abrupt shift in consciousness approx. 1.5 hrs. after ingestion of the pain med. I took my road bike as transportation today so that may have been a factor as well. I live roughly 12 miles away from campus and I usually hall @ss wherever I'm traveling.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with SD/Phera?
 
Ok kinda skimmed so bare with me. Id say dont go up to 30mg of Super especially when u r adding 30mg of phera. Keep the Super at 20mg and wait to up Phera to 30 until u drop the Super. I wouldnt even bother with the Epi for that short of a period. Just stick to the 2 compounds. The light headed could be blood pressure related. Good luck with this popular bridge.
 
Ok kinda skimmed so bare with me. Id say dont go up to 30mg of Super especially when u r adding 30mg of phera. Keep the Super at 20mg and wait to up Phera to 30 until u drop the Super. I wouldnt even bother with the Epi for that short of a period. Just stick to the 2 compounds. The light headed could be blood pressure related. Good luck with this popular bridge.


Thanks man. I'll hold on increasing the Super, possibly run the Phera an extra week and save the Epi for a longer cycle next spring. BP is a little elevated, but not bad (~128/80). I have HCTZ 12.5 if I get hypertensive.
 
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